Margaret Thatcher to be given state funeral.

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Is this true? because the Daily Mail reported it so obviously I need something more reliable than that

Last year Guardian reported 'there were no plans' for a state funeral.

Anyone heard this from anywhere other than the DM?

Bump

(her off)

sorry yes sick joke, couldn't resist, late at night yadda yah.

Not many Maggie fans on here then I gather

Strangely (given her kindness to the common people) NO.

I like Maggie!

DO you? Why? Do you usually make bad choices? Are you sure? Or do you like something else? DO you like that she is a woman? I can show you far better examples of womanhood. DO you like her because she is rightwing? Why?

She was and is, a callous cow who really didn't give a shit about some people.

Oh bum, saw this and thought she'd carked it... 'Like Maggie'...Maggie who though? surely not the woman who so desperately wanted power she divested herself of all the instinctive compassion of our gender?

Lapin is that you yes?

No... not littlelapin, we do get mixed up though

My mistake, sorry its late should've checked.

I just call Lapin, Wabbit, sometimes.

Will staple note to head.

I've just been reading the Facebook group which is trying to get this stopped (one of my friends joined it) and am amazed at the playground politics in evidence.

Some people really haven't moved on since they were Pwesident of their Junior Common Woom in 1990 and wanted the bar to be re-bwanded the Nelson Mandela Bar and to BAN all FASCISTS, cos, like, all gwown-ups are fascists, yeah?

???? confused, unquietdad, are you saying you think that she should have a state funeral?

Haven't got the energy to read the whole thread but loved the youtube video - never heard that song before but it's fab

I've been planning my Ding Dong The Witch is Dead party for about 20 years now - you're all invited when the happy event takes place!

I'm not saying either way - I'm just saying that sometimes, when talking about Thatcher, people allow their emotions to get in the way of objective criticism. I'm no fan of hers, but can't we all move on and let her die in peace when she does? All this "dancing on her grave" stuff and street parties and so on is very undignified and un-British.

Couldn't disagree with you more! And love being un-British so will carry on!

No, I don't think she should be allowed to die in peace - she is an evil woman and Britain continues to pay for the havoc she wreaked on our country and the establishment of the "I'm alright Jack, f**k everyone else attitude" that she encouraged.

As for emotions, those of us who were on the receiving end of her appalling policies will get v emotional about it - the scars still run deep .

So, you be dignified, I'm going to party!

UQD, that spiteful, evil woman did wicked things and caused lasting damage to people and communities. I lived in S Yorks during the miners' strike and it was horrifying. She used the police as her private army who were beyond the law - the local traffic cops ended up protecting people from those bastards in the Met who thought, correctly, that they had a licence to beat up anyone they liked. Whether that person had anything to do with the strike or not, as long as they were a local, that made them a target. (And they had no right to attack miners, either.)

It was like living under a dictatorship. HER police stooges stopping anyone they liked travelling out of S Yorks - one man I know was prevented from attending his own father's funeral because it was across the border in Notts.

How many deaths is she directly responsible for? I reckon it must be thousands, frankly. I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire.

I agree with UQD. Thatcher didnt do anything that wasnt fully supported and encouraged by teh establishment and most of the conservative party. She's easy to blame because she's a lower middle class woman. Most of what she is blamed for is just part of a trend if you look at the evidence.

Nighbynight, I don't understand your point - of course she was supported by the Tory party, she was their leader. But the fact they all agreed with her ideas doesn't make them right!

"Most of what she is blamed for is just part of a trend if you look at the evidence" - don't understand this point at all.

This is absolutely nothing to do with her being a "lower middle class woman" - what a hilarious point! She's easy to blame because she is to blame!

Party on!

I did read a nice suggestion that, in honour of the contribution she made to British society, her funeral should be privatised, and tendered out to the lowest bidder.

ETS spring to mind... or how about RailTrack? Capita do the NHS IT systems; they might be good!

Oh, that's a great idea, Kevlarhead. So many to choose from, though... Balfour Beatty has been named in many an inquiry, or how about the privatised utilities?

Did anyone see Mock the Week on Thursday - Frankie Boyle suggested they use the £3 million that has been quoted as cost of funeral to buy every Scot a spade. They could then dig a hole big enough to hand her over to Satan themselves!

Whether or not one agrees with her policies is something which should be argued in a sensible, adult manner. I imagine the obituaries will not all be hagiographies. Her death, when it comes, will no doubt be an suitable opportunity for a robust debate about the merits or otherwise of her administration.

After all, some people no doubt have equally strong feelings about icons of the Left. I don't think all of this grave-jumping, partying, celebrating her death and so on is particularly dignified. It shows you are no better than the person you despise.

She has gone. She has had no power for seventeen years. Surely everyone who wanted to rejoice in her departure had ample opportunity to do so at the time of her resignation - it's not like she is some dictator who holds sway over a country and whose death is going to result in a new regime and the emancipation of millions.

I say this as someone who demonstrated against Margaret Thatcher's policies as a student and would never in a million years have voted for her.

Whether it is a state funeral or not, there is no doubt that it will be a big affair as she was highly influential. For both good and bad reasons. I would expect that politicians from around the world would attend her funeral,including a large proportion of those in Parliament, probably from all parties.

Oh, don't be so pompous UQD. You are always complaining that Sheffield is the most divided city in the country in socio-economic terms. Who is largely to blame for that, huh?

I'd jump up and down on her grave if I could be bothered to spare her the energy. Because she is a wicked, wicked woman who did terrible things. It's all very well saying 'let's be adult about this' if you weren't personally affected. SHE wasn't very adult about the pain she caused, was she?

It's very easy to sit on the sidelines and make ad hominem (or in this case ad feminam) remarks about someone who was in power when we were all very much younger. Do you really think anyone goes into politics intending to be "wicked"?

I agree with UQD. And I'm one of the few people here who was directly affected by the minors strike in SOuth Wales and of an age to know exactly what was going on.

Dancing on Jim Callaghans grave would be just as appropriate - he created the conditions for MT.

I think we need a reality check here. Which thousands of deaths is she responsible for?

Do we still think it's worth the tax payer subsidising men to go down pits? In the 21st century? Surely not? I can take issue with the way the unemployed weren't properly re-trained and re-engaged but not with the fact that she closed the pits.