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Russell Brand - the aftermath thread 2

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thebrowncatisback · Today 08:04

New thread

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thebrowncatisback · Today 08:30

@efacsen

if the excerpts of messages from Berki to Goldsmith are true, she’s fairly unhinged

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Efacsen · Today 08:34

thebrowncatisback · Today 08:30

@efacsen

if the excerpts of messages from Berki to Goldsmith are true, she’s fairly unhinged

Like I said before maybe Khan and Blands behaviour made her 'unhinged' - she has no way of defending herself - and still would like to hear Dan Neidl's pov

BrandiedAromatics · Today 08:36

Thanks @thebrowncatisback for starting a new thread that is a continuation. To continue posting more on the JK story - it is the journalist barked at by Brand's KC, Winter, and who has been instrumental in the investigation who has supported JK:

Sunday Times chief news correspondent Rosamund Urwin, who was involved in a media investigation into Brand in 2023, has told the BBC that Goldsmith helped her "a lot".
"I have seen the abuse she's been getting online and I did try to tell people that part of the story was much more complicated than they realise," Urwin said.
(BBC)

It sounds as if both parties behaved strangely. Why would you arrive at a booking, at a luxury home, and say "I'm getting out of here"?

thebrowncatisback · Today 08:38

sounds like Neidle has made an assumption here but time will no doubt tell

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Efacsen · Today 08:44

thebrowncatisback · Today 08:38

sounds like Neidle has made an assumption here but time will no doubt tell

Have you read his thread?

He might have got the wrong end of the stick - tho' he's always been pretty solid on his tax investigations

As I said it would be good to hear from him

sittingonabeach · Today 08:53

If Berki was so bad could she not have been charged? Did it warrant a lifetime injunction?

BrandiedAromatics · Today 09:00

sittingonabeach · Today 08:53

If Berki was so bad could she not have been charged? Did it warrant a lifetime injunction?

For all parties concerned (well maybe not Brand) it sounds as if careful consideration of the facts of this incident should be revisited.

There are many things around Brand that need looking at again - were "Jack and Gareth" interviewed as witnesses to an assault?

thebrowncatisback · Today 09:06

@efacsen

no, but I shall

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MorwennaIII · Today 09:24

Thanks for the new thread @thebrowncatisback!

Good podcast from The Rest is Entertainment on what the media knew and the timeline of how Brand tried to run and hide. Looks like he knew the writing was definitely on the wall around the time of the Me Too movement. They didn’t mention the exact number of years but I got the impression that Roz Unwin and other journalists started investigating him shortly after this. It was pretty depressing knowing that really not much has changed, and in fact may be worse (content creators now not employed by big companies and therefore no HR to answer to, a rapist in the White House https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-rest-is-entertainment/id1718287198?i=1000800817622

Efacsen · Today 09:36

@MorwennaIII Wow - so almost 10 years of investigating him!

Lalgarh · Today 09:41

MorwennaIII · Today 09:24

Thanks for the new thread @thebrowncatisback!

Good podcast from The Rest is Entertainment on what the media knew and the timeline of how Brand tried to run and hide. Looks like he knew the writing was definitely on the wall around the time of the Me Too movement. They didn’t mention the exact number of years but I got the impression that Roz Unwin and other journalists started investigating him shortly after this. It was pretty depressing knowing that really not much has changed, and in fact may be worse (content creators now not employed by big companies and therefore no HR to answer to, a rapist in the White House https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-rest-is-entertainment/id1718287198?i=1000800817622

Times started investigating him in 2019.

#MeToo was 2017, and also that year, when he was still in Messiah of the anti establishment mode, he gave that interview to Emily Maitlis then on Newsnight.

The amount of podcasts riffing on this (sky, BBC, one from Dorian Lynskey etc) was multiplying like topsy. (Which was the name of the dog he kicked down the stairs).

Also someone elsewhere claimed Mr goalhanger owner had some sort of injunction out previously. Not been able to find corroboration for this though

nolongeranutjob · Today 09:50

BrandiedAromatics · Today 09:00

For all parties concerned (well maybe not Brand) it sounds as if careful consideration of the facts of this incident should be revisited.

There are many things around Brand that need looking at again - were "Jack and Gareth" interviewed as witnesses to an assault?

Jack Bayles has said he has cooperated with the police but has claimed to have no recollection of the events. He has been sacked from his current job.

https://www.itv.com/news/2026-11-06/producer-accused-of-laughing-during-brand-assault-asked-to-step-back-from-role

Dogsceptic · Today 10:00

Do people accept the verdicts of the charges he was not found guilty of?
Do you believe that the version of events recounted by those accusers were false?

Or are only the guilty verdicts valid?

thebrowncatisback · Today 10:05

I believe those charges and understand why the jury delivered a not guilty verdict

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MorwennaIII · Today 10:17

I accept the verdicts he was found NG of.
I don’t believe the accusers gave false testimony.
I think the jury considered very carefully whether or not the evidence for each charge met the criminal standard of proof and gave a verdict accordingly. Had these been civil cases, where the standard of proof is a ‘balance of probabilities’ rather than beyond all reasonable doubt/sure, I think Brand would have lost all cases.

thebrowncatisback · Today 10:21

MorwennaIII · Today 10:17

I accept the verdicts he was found NG of.
I don’t believe the accusers gave false testimony.
I think the jury considered very carefully whether or not the evidence for each charge met the criminal standard of proof and gave a verdict accordingly. Had these been civil cases, where the standard of proof is a ‘balance of probabilities’ rather than beyond all reasonable doubt/sure, I think Brand would have lost all cases.

Agreed

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AwkwardButNice · Today 10:47

I don’t doubt any of the women’s testimonies. I’m disappointed that he was found NG of count 1 seeing as there was also testimony about his subsequent comments and behaviour by his friend

Truinio · Today 11:03

Dogsceptic · Today 10:00

Do people accept the verdicts of the charges he was not found guilty of?
Do you believe that the version of events recounted by those accusers were false?

Or are only the guilty verdicts valid?

Of course people accept the not guilty verdicts. A not guilty verdict obviously does not mean that evidence was false. Giving false evidence is contempt of court.

colouringindoors · Today 14:26

Feeling really sickened that so many men and women witnessed Brand's assaults and William's chasing 15 year olds and did NOTHING 😪🤬

Lalgarh · Today 15:38

Telegraph on Brand's dad

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/11/07/russell-brand-father-ron-difficult-relationship/

It is the norm, of course, for a parent to defend their child – perhaps even in the face of such a decisive verdict.
But viewed against the backdrop of the pair’s knotty history, Ron’s response was curious. Indeed, there is a growing sense that Brand senior – a largely absentee father who hired prostitutes to take his son’s virginity – may have much to answer for yet.
Ronald “Ron” Henry Brand grew up on a council estate in Dagenham, Essex, and was a talented footballer in his youth. He married Barbara Elizabeth Nichols (now Brand) in 1969 and six years later she gave birth to Russell. Just months later, however, the couple were divorced.

Russell has recalled being left, as a young boy, to watch TV in Ron’s flat in Brentwood while his father “read the papers or diddled birds in the room next door”. “I would mainly watch comedy videos, Elvis films and porn,” he wrote. “I think I always had a premature awareness of sexuality, but Ron Brand’s penchant for leaving me to occupy my infant mind with his cache of girlie magazines certainly did nothing to stem the erotic tide.”

Russell has previously called attention to one particularly arresting incident during his early years. While still a young boy, on holiday at a Pontin’s resort, he discovered his father in bed with another child’s mother. He recalled seeing the woman completely naked, “all knockers and skin everywhere”, adding he “pressed record” on the “formative moment”.

Ronald ended up working as a photographer.

I shudder to think what's on his hard drive. Also says that Brand actually had a private education. But he was sexually assaulted as a child by a tutor

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