Russell Brand 🤢🤮

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🤢 🤢 Russell Brand. I never liked him anyway, Now he's on trail. Denies all charges of course.

As far as I aware any victim of crime can claim compensation for injuries/mental or physical after trial. In the same way the CPS decide to prosecute with evidence, compensation is paid after they look at the evidence. You have to give permission to look at all of the police reports, therapy notes, medical records, it took over a year for me. Nobody is getting money for falsely accusing men of rape.

Its not very much. Our service users usually have CICA, its not a lot.

I know, definitely not worth committing a crime yourself by making false accusations of rape. I don’t know why some people are convinced that is what’s happening here, nuts.

How incredibly judgemental to assume that they did

I think the point went over your head.

Just come back to the thread and boy the level of discussion is going downhill. Most women could physically fight off a man intent on raping them? So there is no real rape unless there are injuries is basically what that poster is saying. I despair. Of course someone of RB’s strength could easily overpower. That first victim was 6,5 stone!

They’ve all chosen to remain anonymous.

Not what I said, I said most men would stop if a woman was screaming and punching and kicking, I didn"t say most women could overpower a man.

It won't "be laughed out of court" at all.

If I was on the jury I wouldn't be laughing about it. It's entirely believable. And no, he wasn't known for that back then. It was 1999.

Sounds like you're living in about that era, tbh. Or perhaps 20 years earlier. Times have moved on. As has understanding about consent.

Oh, and you don't understand the "freeze" response either.

I see we have a neanderthal in our midst.

Ok, he must be guilty, still confused by the 30 year wait though, do they have entertainment business careers?

Quite!

@KeepPumping it wasn’t laughed out of court at all - she testified last week - and his friend backed her up that something had happened - RB had stated he’d gone too far and wanted to leave town

it was robust testimony

The wait was because she didn’t report it at the time, decided to try to put it behind her, and had no idea there would be a string of victims behind her. She thought she was the only one. It was only once the documentary came out, that she find out that this was a pattern. After the documentary, she confided in a friend, who encouraged her to come forward.

Not disimilar to Jimmy Saville. Many victims thought it was only them, and once many started coming forward, others came forward. Even 40 years later.

Most decent people really don't find this "confusing" at all. It's not difficult. Rape is traumatic. Not something you've had to worry about happening to you personally, I take it. And given that, you might want to pipe down and listen to those it happens most to.

Because many women this happens to try to block it out. Again, though, as you're clearly a misogynist man who thinks women are "asking for it" (few dodgy accusations in your past, pal?) They think nobody will believe them (oh, and here you are). They just want to forget about it. I know far more women who've kept quiet about rapes because they didn't want to be dragged through the courts and judged by knuckle-draggers like you than I do who have reported it. It doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Thank you. Utterly pathetic from the thread's resident MRA.

You honestly think all women "freeze" when attacked by a man, don"t be so utterly ridiculous.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wbqOTUWNmbc

One of the most striking things to me as someone following the case, and would almost certainly weigh on my mind as a juror, is the fact that the women came forward after the Channel 4 documentary. There is a definite argument for retrospective reinterpretation, which the defence rightly keeps mentioning in cross-examination.

Yes, the book sounds like a potential bestseller 🙄

Not ridiculous at all. As those who actually understand this or have experienced it themselves, a great many do.

Have you ever been in the situation yourself?

Because if you haven't (and I've got to say, I strongly suspect that you won't have) you have precisely zero experience of being subjected to this, and your input is entirely irrelevant and based on ignorance.

Prat.

Many do! I had a friend who was assaulted by a stranger in a busy tube and she froze. She said she couldn’t physically move or scream. Her body wouldn’t let her, and it was horrifying. She never reported it. Are you telling me that she was a liar? What would she have to gain by sharing her story with me in confidence?

Freeze is sometimes called fawn, and it is a very real response.

It baffles me how nobody ever questions the guilt of jimmy saville

he was exposed posthumously and was never tried in court. By those standards, he is an innocent man. Why didnt his victims come forward years ago? Did they come forward to make money?

Yes, it's well documented.

"Are you telling me that she was a liar? "

Pardon? I said not all women "freeze" and posted a video of a woman not freezing, what part of that is not straightforward?

It took me 5 years to get my criminal injuries compensation. It was yet another hellish experience after the attack, then the trial, then him coming out on licence, running off and breaking the liceence condtions, i will never forget probation phoning me and telling me to get home and stay there as nobody knew where he was. Anyway, back to the compensation, I was intially offered a very low amount because (get this!) I had been sexually assaulted in the past so in the eyes of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority this meant that my trauma was less! I appealed, but the process took years and after being assessed by a clinical psychologist and being given a diagnosis of CPSTD I was awarded a significantly larger amount. Ir was not huge, it was not life changing but it was far better than the original award. I honestly think that they offer the least they can as they know that so many victims of crime are worn down by the whole processs and want tot try to forget. If, god forbid, i was ever attacked again i doubt I would report it, I would turn to family and friends for support and do my best to forget