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Edinburgh attack

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Blightfitting · 20/06/2026 20:05

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/20/counter-terrorism-officers-investigate-after-five-injured-in-violent-incidents-in-edinburgh

Said it before. Will say it again. And will keep saying it. Bad people are bad. There is no ethnic or religious pre-determinant if badness, nor will we somehow magic up some kind of utopian crime free society by blaming people of one skin colour, nationality or religion.
We'll only get one by healing divisions, not creating more.

My sympathies to anyone affected by what's happened in Edinburgh.

Counter-terrorism officers investigate after five injured in violent incidents in Edinburgh

Several of those hurt are reported to be Muslim as Police Scotland say 36-year-old white Scottish man arrested

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/20/counter-terrorism-officers-investigate-after-five-injured-in-violent-incidents-in-edinburgh

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Persephonia1966 · 22/06/2026 22:35

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 20/06/2026 22:30

This is fair enough, but I don't think it really explains away the fact the BBC took over 14 hours to even put a cursory "initial reports" story up, when similar events elsewhere recently have featured drone footage, rolling tickers, breaking reports with updates to follow etc.

I think it's abundantly clear there is a hierarchy of import placed upon these events by news sources depending upon the precise ethnicity of the perpetrators and the victims. As I said, local sources had it spot-within the hour, and it was all over SM as it was happening, so there is really no explanation for the BBC delay given that this is precisely how they source stories normally.

It's partly that. It's also because the BBC has had to speed up how it reports certain attacks, and the police have had to speed up the rate at which they release information because of the risk of shit being stirred on social media. So, when that car drove through the crowd of football supporters they had to scramble to release the fact he was white before the rabble rousers called for a riot. After the 3 girls were stabbed they didn't release the identity of the killer because he was minor but then had to because online trolls had already filled in the gaps with lies. And people still rioted. And a woman reported a suspected rape in Epsom, and because the "concerned citizens" hadn't been given the info they felt entitled to and decided therefore the rapist must have been a migrant and rioted. She turned out not to have been raped at all (which is a good thing but the rioters didn't apologise).

It's really bad because it means the police/government/media are being dictated to buy a crowd of Angry(TM) people who will riot if they aren't given the information they demand. And because it means sometimes the wrong information is given out (eg the birth country of the Belfast attacker) in the rush. It also means any attack which might involve a migrant/person with foreign parents/person with suspicious skin/wrong religion as the perpetrator gets reported very quickly and in great detail. Which leads to a huge discrepancy in reporting and feeds the narrative further.

I don't know what the answer is because I actually prefer the BBC taking a bit more time to report things and get it right. But if they aren't doing it evenly it's not fair and creates further problems.

DuncinToffee · 22/06/2026 23:17

https://bsky.app/profile/johnswinney.bsky.social/post/3movnzp7km22t

Today I met members of Edinburgh’s Muslim community and heard directly from those affected by the appalling attacks.

No one in Scotland should ever fear being targeted because of who they are.

My government will always stand against those who seek to divide us.

John Swinney (@johnswinney.bsky.social)

Today I met members of Edinburgh’s Muslim community and heard directly from those affected by the appalling attacks. No one in Scotland should ever fear being targeted because of who they are. My government will always stand against those who seek to...

https://bsky.app/profile/johnswinney.bsky.social/post/3movnzp7km22t

Emilesgran · 23/06/2026 20:00

Blightfitting · 20/06/2026 21:58

The quietness is probably something we should have more of. It's the inconsistency that bothers me. I wish all attacks were treated like this one is. No rolling news, no wild speculation, nobody trying to make political capital.

Nobody trying to make political capital out of it except the government, you mean? Remember they couldn't comment on various attacks because they were before the court etc, yet here they are speculating on motives?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · Yesterday 00:37

Emilesgran · 23/06/2026 20:00

Nobody trying to make political capital out of it except the government, you mean? Remember they couldn't comment on various attacks because they were before the court etc, yet here they are speculating on motives?

Can you provide a link to anything to substantiate the claim that people in Government have been publicly speculating about motive?

reptilemad1985 · Yesterday 02:49

I used to hang about with him when younger the whole things a shock to people that no him

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