Edinburgh attack

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/20/counter-terrorism-officers-investigate-after-five-injured-in-violent-incidents-in-edinburgh

Said it before. Will say it again. And will keep saying it. Bad people are bad. There is no ethnic or religious pre-determinant if badness, nor will we somehow magic up some kind of utopian crime free society by blaming people of one skin colour, nationality or religion.
We'll only get one by healing divisions, not creating more.

My sympathies to anyone affected by what's happened in Edinburgh.

Definitely not.

It's rather odd.

I live a few hundred yards away, this was all over local SM pages as it was happening, and the initial report in local news, which appeared within the hour, was surprisingly accurate given what is now being reported Nationally.

I really can't understand why it took the BBC nearly 14 hours to even mention this, and then, it was originally just a small thumbnail in the Scottish regional news section.

I'm pondering whether local Muslims will now take to rioting in the street and burning local, random white people out of their homes in response, but somehow I think that's unlikely to happen.

Well there is an obvious reason for it. Quite a lot of people are racist.

Racists tend to be a bit thick and easily led, and they've been led to hate Muslims and value their lives less than other people's lives, and even less than some vehicles (those ambulances).

I'm Jewish. My own community is rampantly islamophobic, and what bothers me almost as much as that is that my fellow Jews don't realise that when people like Trump / Musk / Tommy Robinson express support for Israel or talk about 'Judeo-Christian values' it is not because they like Jews. They actually hate Jews. It's100% because Israel hates Muslims and quite a lot of Jews do too. And right now it serves the racists' primary purpose to pretend to be friends with their enemy's enemy.

Islamophobia and anti-Semitism are the same hatred. It's just that right now the racists are focusing on the Muslims. But give it time.

We should all be against all racism of all kinds. And we should all be alert to where it exists and where it doesn't.

Funny how when a mentally unstable Muslim man attacks people it's cos he's a Muslim, and we should get rid of all the Muslims, but when a mentally unstable white man attacks Muslims it's an isolated case.

This is spot on.

But Starmer? Major news outlets? It's a suspected terror attack(presumably as counter terrorism police are investigating) on the streets of Britain that left 5 people injured and there has been crickets. Is Britain that deeply anti Muslim? I'm desperately hoping that there is more to it because if not then that is terrifying.

Was it filmed? That always massively impacts the spread of news. And of course… It’s not London.
I have some sympathy with some of the concerns of the reform type parties, but the weaponisation of genuine issues to drive racism is appalling. I’m so sad for us as a country, once very optimistic about diversity.

I hope the victims’ injuries aren’t too awful, and respond well to treatment. The scattered victims makes it sound a bit like the Callocane (?) murders in Nottingham.

Muslim attacks aren’t reported as much as other attacks, and when they are, it’s rarely treated as terrorism.

I wouldn’t say that it’s a sign of Britain being racist. I think it shows that Muslim lives are genuinely irrelevant so people don’t care.

The Golders Green attack - the very first victim was a Muslim, before two Jewish men were stabbed, but the focus was very much the Jewish men and not the Muslim. Because people aren’t really interested otherwise.

@PrizedPickledPopcorn

Was it filmed? That always massively impacts the spread of news. And of course… It’s not London

Yes, prolifically, clips and photos everywhere as it was happening, later reproduced on local news sites barely an hour after the initial reports.

It's a very heavily gentrified part of Edinburgh, lots of late opening businesses, lots of young people with phones permanently in their hands, and of course, right before the kick-off of a significant Scotland football match, so the street is always teeming with people and no doubt would have been last night, hence why it was given almost a running commentary on SM.

I hope the victims’ injuries aren’t too awful, and respond well to treatment. The scattered victims makes it sound a bit like the Callocane (?) murders in Nottingham

Perp apparently began his rampage by attacking two men at a Mosque toward the West of the city, started driving east, injured a delivery rider, attacked a taxi, ran amok in a petrol station shop, then continued his drive eastwards in a heavily damaged vehicle, which he then used as a weapon trying to mow down more delivery riders.

This. My niece witnessed the last of the attacks.

Just to add, the Muslim community doesn’t have the same level of support as the Jewish community has with the CST. The CST is really good at monitoring antisemitism and locals are encouraged to report absolutely everything so it allows a picture to be built on prevalent it is. Islamophobia doesn’t have the same system in place.

It would have received greater coverage if it hadn't been for yesterday's train crash. That pretty much dominated everything yesterday evening, and much of today as well.

See, I’d have said the opposite up until the last however long- since October 8th.

Yet another man causing terror on the streets.

Oh heavens.

She must be rather shaken. I hope she's doing OK.

And anything regarding an immigrant is a different story. Multiple threads and posts.

This is fair enough, but I don't think it really explains away the fact the BBC took over 14 hours to even put a cursory "initial reports" story up, when similar events elsewhere recently have featured drone footage, rolling tickers, breaking reports with updates to follow etc.

I think it's abundantly clear there is a hierarchy of import placed upon these events by news sources depending upon the precise ethnicity of the perpetrators and the victims. As I said, local sources had it spot-within the hour, and it was all over SM as it was happening, so there is really no explanation for the BBC delay given that this is precisely how they source stories normally.

The BBC were right to delay, if they chose to. They were wrong to give previous attacks the rolling news treatment. And they will be again if they do it again.
We need equal, sober treatment. Not unequal treatment but also not equal breathless madness when bad things happen.

Absolutely. The media should stop fanning the flames. But it just sickens me, the contrast between this and any attacks against white or Jewish people.

Oh give it a break.

This is absolutely fair, and upon consideration and reflection I'm in agreement.

I think the "speculative" nature of some reporting does nothing but encourage a febrile atmosphere. Police Scotland do, like most forces, have a litany of poor procedure, poor behaviour, poor response etc behind them, but they are usually pretty good at keeping a lid on things re not stoking up tensions, so it's possible the BBC were simply asked to refrain from reporting until further facts were established.

They did actually update their midday article around 7pm with a lot of further information, but again, the updated article is not reporting anything that the local sources were not already reporting before midnight last night.

No, I won't.

Exactly!!

Yes. To be fair I think the vast majority of them are individuals with a bad attitude and possibly badly controlled mental illness. However there are organised groups as well, which need treating differently.

And then there are the bad-attitude or mentally ill people who may be responding to what's fed them by media (trad or social) or peer influence.

Somehow I don't think this guy got his ideas at church.

March 27 2026
Naked police cell protest after racist hate campaign by Dundee man
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/5459316/naked-police-cell-racist-hate-dundee/
He made racist and homophobic remarks before striking him with a vehicle on October 30 on Happyhillock Road.
[...]
The following day at Morrisons, Mitchell assaulted a third man.
A written Crown narrative of facts stated: “At around 9.10am, the complainer has entered Morrisons when the accused has approached him at the entrance asking him ‘are you Christian?’
“The complainer replied that he is Muslim and the accused has stated ‘get out of the country’.
“Inside the store, at the entrance, the accused has repeatedly pushed towards the complainer with his head before headbutting him to the face."
[...]
[In police custody he] fully exposed himself and said: “There’s nothing indecent about this,” adding he was standing up to urinate.
Lunch was later offered, with one of the options being chicken tikka masala.
At this time, another staff member named Sajeed offered a person in the adjacent cell lunch.
Mitchell shouted: “What’s that cs name? Sanjeed? Given Sanjeed chicken tikka masala.
“How are you liking Scotland Sanjeed? Ehm a f**g Christian.”