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Edinburgh attack

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Blightfitting · 20/06/2026 20:05

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/20/counter-terrorism-officers-investigate-after-five-injured-in-violent-incidents-in-edinburgh

Said it before. Will say it again. And will keep saying it. Bad people are bad. There is no ethnic or religious pre-determinant if badness, nor will we somehow magic up some kind of utopian crime free society by blaming people of one skin colour, nationality or religion.
We'll only get one by healing divisions, not creating more.

My sympathies to anyone affected by what's happened in Edinburgh.

Counter-terrorism officers investigate after five injured in violent incidents in Edinburgh

Several of those hurt are reported to be Muslim as Police Scotland say 36-year-old white Scottish man arrested

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/20/counter-terrorism-officers-investigate-after-five-injured-in-violent-incidents-in-edinburgh

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/06/2026 23:19

saraclara · 20/06/2026 22:35

Oh give it a break.

No. It's entirely correct to highlight that women very rarely commit this kind of crime.

peanutcookie · 20/06/2026 23:22

Are people actually serious when they say they don't understand why there hasn't been much coverage of this? An imam's house in Manchester was set on fire, another mosque was set alight both within the last couple of weeks. There are numerous instances of Muslims being attacked and very little of it makes msm.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/06/2026 23:26

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 20/06/2026 22:49

Yes. To be fair I think the vast majority of them are individuals with a bad attitude and possibly badly controlled mental illness. However there are organised groups as well, which need treating differently.

Women with badly-controlled mental illness so rarely commit these attacks. It's not about mental illness, it's about having a culture in which men think "violence is the answer, what's the question?"

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/06/2026 23:27

peanutcookie · 20/06/2026 23:22

Are people actually serious when they say they don't understand why there hasn't been much coverage of this? An imam's house in Manchester was set on fire, another mosque was set alight both within the last couple of weeks. There are numerous instances of Muslims being attacked and very little of it makes msm.

This particular instance, I can believe that the Bedford rail crash distracts from it. The others? It's almost like MSM thinks brown people don't matter much.

Vintique · 21/06/2026 00:12

Absolutely horrifying, live nearby, it must be so frightening for Muslim communities, can’t imagine what people must be feeling like at the moment. Ok maybe this was just one nutter acting alone, but who can say when the next attack might come, given all the horrible rhetoric at the moment? How can non-Muslims show support? I donated to CST after the Manchester synagogue attack. Any ideas? I know there’s Tell MAMA, but is there any other charity or way to help protect people, at least offer some solidarity, sympathy, anything, at this time? I know it’s not much, but just to say we don’t all think this way, we do care very much about the terror you are facing.

GardenCovent · 21/06/2026 00:14

CagedBirdInACage · 20/06/2026 21:53

I just saw that this happened 24hrs ago? So weird that it's only hitting the news now, especially when the man was arrested at the scene? Other attacks like Golders Green had days of rolling news coverage pretty much straight from the off, I wonder why the media has been so quiet on this?

Starmer is only making a statement almost 24hrs after the attack too? Very strange.

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It was the main headline on Reporting Scotland during the day on Saturday

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 21/06/2026 01:13

@Vintique

A year back I'd have immediately suggested Saheliya, a local charity doing fantastic work on the behalf of ethnic minority women in Edinburgh. Close to my heart, but sadly they ceased operating last summer and are in the process of being wound up.

Perhaps this place?

https://www.thewelcoming.org/

Seems on topic, but I will say I have no knowledge of them or any dealings with them, so I'm unsure precisely who they are and how they are funded.

Welcome! - The Welcoming

Edinburgh refugee support – free English lessons, friendship groups, community fridge, and advice for refugees, migrants and asylum seekers.

https://www.thewelcoming.org

saraclara · 21/06/2026 01:17

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/06/2026 23:19

No. It's entirely correct to highlight that women very rarely commit this kind of crime.

This attack was out and out racist. Stop hijacking it for your own own purpose. The focus should be on those people that this man attacked, and those of the same religion or skin colour who are now extremely vulnerable to racist attacks.

Posting 'yes, but men..,' is tone deaf.

CurlewKate · 21/06/2026 05:17

There was also nobody stirring things up on social media-demanding names and ethnicities and saying there’s a coverup. As there was, for example, within minutes of the awful incident at the zoo. The old deranged loner narrative we always see when the attacker is white. Even if he is yelling about protecting his country.

countrygirl99 · 21/06/2026 05:41

GCAcademic · 20/06/2026 21:25

We can pretty much always blame people of one sex, though, when it comes to wielding axes and knives.

Alina Burns, recently sentenced for attempting to behead a Kurdish man, wasn't a man. But you probably missed that because it's another one that didn't attract a slew of threads on mumsnet or other social media or riots in the street. Funny that, I wonder what the similarities with this attack are.

CurlewKate · 21/06/2026 08:07

countrygirl99 · 21/06/2026 05:41

Alina Burns, recently sentenced for attempting to behead a Kurdish man, wasn't a man. But you probably missed that because it's another one that didn't attract a slew of threads on mumsnet or other social media or riots in the street. Funny that, I wonder what the similarities with this attack are.

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One exception does not disprove the basic premise.

MiddleAgedDread · 21/06/2026 08:15

There’s been loads of attacks in Edinburgh in recent months, often on Asian taxi drivers with kids throwing eggs at their vehicles and even stones off bridges. I’ve seen two reports of racist abuse on buses (one from an adult, one from a kid) in the last 2 days on social media. It’s only going to get worse when schools break up this week and the little neds all have free rein of the city and beyond with their free bus passes.

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 21/06/2026 08:24

If you are seriously wondering why these attacks are not being publicised by the media, it is because the victims don't matter, because it doesn't serve the media narrative. It doesn't get clicks and sell papers.
Move along here, nothing to see. If the victims were of a different group there would be a Cobra meeting.

IonianNerveGrip · 21/06/2026 08:41

CagedBirdInACage · 20/06/2026 21:38

Pretty sure that the multiple 1000-post threads when it's a brown-skinned attacker aren't concerned about his sex.

Given recent threads on here about similar attacks I am very surprised to see how little attention this attack has garnered. I found this thread because I looked for it after reading about the attack else where. I was wondering if I was missing another thread somewhere in here?

You're surprised, really? I'm not.

emuloc · 21/06/2026 08:44

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 21/06/2026 08:24

If you are seriously wondering why these attacks are not being publicised by the media, it is because the victims don't matter, because it doesn't serve the media narrative. It doesn't get clicks and sell papers.
Move along here, nothing to see. If the victims were of a different group there would be a Cobra meeting.

It is sad, but plain to see.

CurlewKate · 21/06/2026 08:50

MiddleAgedDread · 21/06/2026 08:15

There’s been loads of attacks in Edinburgh in recent months, often on Asian taxi drivers with kids throwing eggs at their vehicles and even stones off bridges. I’ve seen two reports of racist abuse on buses (one from an adult, one from a kid) in the last 2 days on social media. It’s only going to get worse when schools break up this week and the little neds all have free rein of the city and beyond with their free bus passes.

I KNOW it’s wrong of me, but I was amused by the linking of racist attacks with a “wasting council tax on free bus passes” complaint!

peanutcookie · 21/06/2026 09:29

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/06/2026 23:27

This particular instance, I can believe that the Bedford rail crash distracts from it. The others? It's almost like MSM thinks brown people don't matter much.

We really don't matter. Take this thread for example. I haven't seen any other posts about this or other recent attacks (perhaps there are some and I just haven't seen them) but any post about attacks on other groups would have had pages and pages by now. Where is the response from the PM? Does one X post count? There are multiple attacks on Muslims and other brown/ethnic groups, riots in Belfast targeting people of colour, where is the Cobra meeting for our safety?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 21/06/2026 12:59

MiddleAgedDread · 21/06/2026 08:15

There’s been loads of attacks in Edinburgh in recent months, often on Asian taxi drivers with kids throwing eggs at their vehicles and even stones off bridges. I’ve seen two reports of racist abuse on buses (one from an adult, one from a kid) in the last 2 days on social media. It’s only going to get worse when schools break up this week and the little neds all have free rein of the city and beyond with their free bus passes.

It's well past time a zero tolerance policy with regard to free youth bus passes was adopted. I've lost count of the number of times they've been running riot on a bus and harassing other passengers. One strike - bus pass gone. They also need to introduce a minimum permissible journey distance, because I'm sick of watching a gaggle of 10-15 of them hold a bus up for an eternity to get on, only to pile off again 1-2 stops later.

MiddleAgedDread · 21/06/2026 18:46

CurlewKate · 21/06/2026 08:50

I KNOW it’s wrong of me, but I was amused by the linking of racist attacks with a “wasting council tax on free bus passes” complaint!

there was a noticeable increase in antisocial behaviour across the city when the free travel for kids came in, particularly gang related.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 21/06/2026 19:05

CurlewKate · 21/06/2026 08:50

I KNOW it’s wrong of me, but I was amused by the linking of racist attacks with a “wasting council tax on free bus passes” complaint!

I don't think it is actually a complaint about cost and wastage, it's a national policy and not LA, so nothing to do with Council Tax in the first place.

I actually believe it's an inherently worthwhile policy, but the issue is it was introduced with no strictures or stipulations and it's being widely abused by feral school-age youth.

The purpose was really to assist young people in further learning or in their first jobs with the cost of travel. A noble cause considering that young people do not usually earn anything close to what their older colleagues do, but they still have the exact same potential travel costs when it comes to actually getting to work.

What has actually happened though, is it's being used by school children who previously walked a 3 or 4 bus stop distance to and from school to completely overwhelm rush-hour buses when they still could easily walk that distance. Not only are they an antisocial nuisance, but they're even more sedentary now thanks to the sheer laziness of busing back and forth on walking-distance routes. Then of course, outside of school hours this has just become an excuse to tour the City free of charge noising up and abusing other passengers.

If you are lucky, you get a driver who doesn't tolerate it and throws the wee shites off, but understandably the majority do absolutely nothing about it, and heaven help any member of the public who dares to stand up to them. It's not just the kids themselves, but you immediately get rounded upon for being an adult antagonising children. The fact the children are themselves entirely the root of the problem, and the transgressors, seems to be lost on many.

PerkingFaintly · 22/06/2026 21:56

He's been named and charged: Lewis Hawkes, charged with "five counts of attempted murder linked to terrorism".

Man charged with terrorism-linked attempted murders in Edinburgh
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2x9j1en29o

A still from a video showing a bare-chested man wearing dark trousers standing in the middle of a street. He is carrying a weapon in his hand. The still is blurry and the man's face has been delibrately blurred.

Man charged with terrorism-linked attempted murders in Edinburgh

Lewis Hawkes appeared at Edinburgh Sheriff Court charged with five counts of attempted murder.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2x9j1en29o

ChipswithMayonnaise · 22/06/2026 22:07

Blightfitting · 20/06/2026 22:31

The BBC were right to delay, if they chose to. They were wrong to give previous attacks the rolling news treatment. And they will be again if they do it again.
We need equal, sober treatment. Not unequal treatment but also not equal breathless madness when bad things happen.

I wish we had a PM like you.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 22/06/2026 22:12

Chiapotayto · 20/06/2026 22:18

Muslim attacks aren’t reported as much as other attacks, and when they are, it’s rarely treated as terrorism.

I wouldn’t say that it’s a sign of Britain being racist. I think it shows that Muslim lives are genuinely irrelevant so people don’t care.

The Golders Green attack - the very first victim was a Muslim, before two Jewish men were stabbed, but the focus was very much the Jewish men and not the Muslim. Because people aren’t really interested otherwise.

That is racism. The different value put on lives.

Islam is a religion, not an ethnicity, but Islamophobia and anti-brown racism overlap in the UK.