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15-year-old "Hannah Montana" star Miley Cyrus appears semi-nude in Vanity Fair

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morningpaper · 29/04/2008 10:21

Annie Leibovitz took the photos of the 15-year-old partially covered with a sheet. Story here

What do we think?

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morningpaper · 29/04/2008 19:05

I think it's sad because she's marketed at 6-9 year olds

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southeastastra · 29/04/2008 19:07

6-9 year old will hardly read vanity fair will they

littlelapin · 29/04/2008 19:29

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dittany · 29/04/2008 19:39

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Monkeytrousers · 29/04/2008 19:39

I think having sex with many people under age, being involved in porn can have disasterous consequenses for a girl. I'm not sure getting photographed by Annie Leibovitz in bare back is quite the same, is all.

I know it's frowned upon to pose for FHM etc, but that kind of erotica too is a far cry from porn and the women who pose generally do very well out of it.

dittany · 29/04/2008 19:45

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WideWebWitch · 29/04/2008 19:47

Only read first few posts but yes, stupid parents, really vile.

Monkeytrousers · 29/04/2008 19:51

Is it? Completely? Why would women do this if they didn't want to? Why do they say they enjoy being sexy? Why is it now accepted that objectification is not the bogey it used to be - in fact that it is probably essential for good old dirty sex?

Are we saying women don't enjoy being sexy? Don't enjoy displaying? Don't enjoy their bodies being looked at and adored? As well as making lots of money from it? Cos the evidence points to them liking it a lot.

We might not want to be judged on those things forever - they don';t last forever - but that is a different issue to saying we don;t want to engage in those things ever.

(Still talking erotica here not porn).

WideWebWitch · 29/04/2008 19:52

And agree with dittany.

dittany · 29/04/2008 19:59

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expatinscotland · 29/04/2008 20:08

is a 15-year-old a woman?

if so, why are there age of consent laws?

sprogger · 29/04/2008 20:16

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scottishmummy · 29/04/2008 20:16

these are parents who already allow their teen daughter to be branded and marketed as a commodity.they make millions out of her wholesome image. i think would troubles them is the potentially loss of the fee earning MoreMoneyMiley brand. actually i think these fame craving pushy parents are dysfunctional

she should be encouraged to complete schooling full time and then if she wants progress with acting

were they compelled to attend the photoshoot or did they (cynically) think Oh another dollar in the pot

if anyone is selling Miley (short) it is her parents

Greensleeves · 29/04/2008 20:17

she's fugly anyway

PosieParker · 29/04/2008 20:22

Give the poor girl a couple of years and she'll be posing for Hugh-disgusting-hideous-socially-acceptable-with-a-house-full-of-whores-Heffner!

expatinscotland · 29/04/2008 20:23

snap, Greeny .

littlelapin · 29/04/2008 20:37

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expatinscotland · 29/04/2008 20:41

well, lapin, there is some confusion about her age as well.

some sources put her birthdate as 1959, but she claims 1961.

the film was shot in 1978/9. she acknowledges he was her lover then.

littlelapin · 29/04/2008 20:44

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cocolesquarepants · 29/04/2008 20:55

lol at LL! I'll never look at the news in the same way

SueW · 29/04/2008 21:14

I think the Leibovitz pic is foul - it looks like something the NSPCC would put out.

Maybe that's the point.

Monkeytrousers · 29/04/2008 21:36

That isn't true Sprogger. There are plenty of sexualised images of men out there. And I'm not trying to argue black and white here, just the middle ground.

"All the evidence is that men like to see women exposed and are willing to pay the ones they find attractive a great deal of money to do it. So I don't think you can ignore the power differentials going on here, MT. They are playing a far greater role than you are giving them credit for."

But what is wrong with men liking to see sexy women and sexy women liking it?

It's biology, not just culture. I'm not saying it isn't exploited/encouraged cos sex sells, but I think the power diferential in erotica, not porn is weighted more on the female side. The women get much more out of it than a wank.

It involves cameras in the way it used to involve paint previously. It's just a way to widen exposure and get the benefits of that. I really think this is more of a two-way street than many like to admit. Sexy images don't oppress women. Porn certainly might, but celeration of the female form doesn't.

Monkeytrousers · 29/04/2008 21:37

The age of consent laws differ in many counties expat.

scottishmummy · 29/04/2008 21:40

as Miley is a minor her parent or an appropriate adult would have been present (even on a closed set) so surely they might have noticed she had a sheet draped across her? would they not have seen rushes of the shoot?

me thinks they are more worried about financial implication and losing lucrative marketing and are desperately back tracking

Monkeytrousers · 29/04/2008 21:43

ages of consent globally