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So errrr what is the UK doing right now to enable its citizens to prepare for an attack from Russia?

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 20/11/2024 10:38

Are we just going for the head in the sand approach or are we going to get a pamphlet or something?

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bongsuhan · 20/11/2024 15:47

timenowplease · 20/11/2024 11:59

Instead of wanting the government to prepare a pamphlet letting us know the various ways we will die if the UK is subject to nuclear strikes maybe we should be lobbying the government to de-escalate this conflict? Which is what they should have been doing all along. It shouldn't have gone on for more that a few weeks and peace talks were planned in the first month but were scotched by Germany I think.

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This is obviously bullshit, but just to show you how this works: in Germany, the Russian propaganda claims that it was England that vetoed this (imaginary) peace agreement. In England, it was Germany...

Memyselfmilly · 20/11/2024 15:47

Keir is far to busy waffling about climate change in sunnier climes. Honestly why are they spending so. Much. Time. dealing with climate change when Ukraine and Russia are trying to blow each other up?

anyway, we don’t need a pamphlet we need captain mannering!!

Zinglenibber · 20/11/2024 15:49

AInightingale · 20/11/2024 15:38

The Daily Mail (who else) are advising people not to use hair conditioner in the event of a nuclear attack. It's paywalled but can anyone explain this batshittery?

It's also on an official government website under the section about decontaminating yourself after a nuclear incident. "Do not use conditioner when washing your hair, as this can bind contamination to hair. Simple soaps or mild shampoos are effective for removing contamination."

Webpage was last updated 10th September 2024: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/radiation-emergencies-information-for-the-public/what-to-do-in-a-radiation-emergency

What to do in a radiation emergency

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/radiation-emergencies-information-for-the-public/what-to-do-in-a-radiation-emergency

SuzieNine · 20/11/2024 15:56

Mekumeku · 20/11/2024 15:00

There's this really weird thing, that's called taking a non-interventionist approach in geopolitical affairs. I do not support support Ukraine OR Russia. I care about British people and British affairs.
Given that you do still have your flags up, I expect you will be heading out to the front lines very soon then? Or do you expect those working-class British men, that you no doubt loathe, to go and die for your virtuous opinions?

Is that you Neville?

Hedgenight · 20/11/2024 15:57

I can remember in the 80’s ( when I was a child) my parents getting a pamphlet about hiding behind a table, 😂.
Then I read Z for Zachariah and decided I would walk into mushroom cloud. And watched the BBC tv programme.

Sausagesonlegs · 20/11/2024 15:58

SuzieNine · 20/11/2024 15:56

Is that you Neville?

😆

devilsadvocate77 · 20/11/2024 16:02

AInightingale · 20/11/2024 15:38

The Daily Mail (who else) are advising people not to use hair conditioner in the event of a nuclear attack. It's paywalled but can anyone explain this batshittery?

That's correct as it apparently 'traps' the radiation in. Think I read that on a Uk gov site but not sure.

Mickeymix · 20/11/2024 16:03

First question: Where is this news about a likely nuclear attack coming from. I haven't seen it in The Times, (therefore) it is not happening. Putin and his muppets are just making threats to keep their own spirits up. There is another load of bollocks about a revolution or coup in Russia. Ignore that as well.
Poland and the countries going up to the Arctic are more at risk from a ground attack from conventional weapons. It makes sense for them to be at a higher state of readiness than us.

Purplebunnie · 20/11/2024 16:03

Singleandproud · 20/11/2024 11:32

I'd be heading for the nearest, intact castle they were strategically built there for a reason and nice thick walls to keep the looters et al out perfect for seeing out the zombie apocalypse and any minor fall out I'd imagine, and if not you can go out in style.

Castle nearish to me always appearing on FB historic sites. Everyone thinks it's viable for zombie apocalypse. There have been various arguments around this but it's fully moated and zombies can walk under water. I've sort of ruled it out as a) zombies walk underwater b) everyone else is heading there and would get there before me and no-one wants to support a pensioner

The nearest is closed due to major structural damage, it may hold off the zombies for a while but nuclear bomb anywhere within a 40 mile radius would probably bring it down. I'm fucked aren't I 😂

devilsadvocate77 · 20/11/2024 16:05

I do sort of wonder whether we're looking at rhetoric to some extent not only from Russia but from Europe too although the pamphlets are useful and used to be distributed fairly regularly in Sweden etc a while back, certainly during and after the cold war.

Biden 'escalates' (although in reality these missiles are fairly short range so not seen as a threat as such to key Russian cities).

Trump comes in and with his unpredictability pushes for a resolution (hopefully not just for Ukraine to concede the regions in question).

Winter is truly coming and it will be bitterly cold making warfare on the ground increasingly difficult.

Maybe, best case, we will be looking for peace early next year? (fingers crossed)

Spoiltforchoicenames · 20/11/2024 16:06

Mickeymix · 20/11/2024 16:03

First question: Where is this news about a likely nuclear attack coming from. I haven't seen it in The Times, (therefore) it is not happening. Putin and his muppets are just making threats to keep their own spirits up. There is another load of bollocks about a revolution or coup in Russia. Ignore that as well.
Poland and the countries going up to the Arctic are more at risk from a ground attack from conventional weapons. It makes sense for them to be at a higher state of readiness than us.

No-one tends to talk about it in real life.

80smonster · 20/11/2024 16:13

I seem to remember hearing south londoners should leg it for chislehurst caves in the event of bombs being dropped, but that maybe incorrect… Anyone reading this, please don’t take my word for it.

Blackbird11 · 20/11/2024 16:16

I live near an airport so hopefully I’d be vaporised in a direct strike 😂. Otherwise if there’s been no government planning about how to secure food, water, power supplies and healthcare we are all in for a long slow death from cold and starvation. In ww2 the country population was a third of what it is now and the government planned how to improve food production from farms and domestic land to achieve food security. The country produced its own coal rather than relying on a Russian gas pipeline. Not sure how farmers are feeling about securing food production since Keir’s IHT announcement. Anyway I’ve just recharged my solar lighting, found my wind up radio and similar phone charger and pumped up the bike tyres. I’m assuming that any stockpiled food in tins will be nicely radioactive and the water too. Next plan is to stock the attic with toilet rolls which will double up as a nuclear shield when they take out the nearby airport control tower 😳.

Singleandproud · 20/11/2024 16:18

@80smonster I think I'd head for the War Rooms in Westminster if I was in London There is a similar one at RAF Uxbridge - getting in might be an issue though. Although I have Security Clearance so maybe I can just wave my work pass lol.

Begsthequestion · 20/11/2024 16:19

Mickeymix · 20/11/2024 16:03

First question: Where is this news about a likely nuclear attack coming from. I haven't seen it in The Times, (therefore) it is not happening. Putin and his muppets are just making threats to keep their own spirits up. There is another load of bollocks about a revolution or coup in Russia. Ignore that as well.
Poland and the countries going up to the Arctic are more at risk from a ground attack from conventional weapons. It makes sense for them to be at a higher state of readiness than us.

No one has any news about a pending nuclear attack.

It's just that some posters are unable to comprehend any other type of attack might exist, even ones far more likely like a cyber attack or disabling infrastructure.

I think they find it more comforting to pretend it can only be nuclear, so they can say they'll just die in that case, rather than facing the need to prepare for an actual realistic attack

Blackbird11 · 20/11/2024 16:20

PS checked the porch for pamphlets, there’s one for a Chinese takeaway and one for an over 55’s retirement complex. Neither contains tips on what to do during a nuclear winter ☹️.

CitrusPocket · 20/11/2024 16:20

NetDesMamans1 · 20/11/2024 14:02

My hot sexting guy in Stockholm says the pamphlets are updated quite regularly over there.

Intrigued by the sexting that involves chat about nuclear war. Is it his kink?

Mekumeku · 20/11/2024 16:20

SuzieNine · 20/11/2024 15:56

Is that you Neville?

I have no idea what you are talking about. You are an excellent example of why universal suffrage was a terrible idea.

AInightingale · 20/11/2024 16:22

Zinglenibber · 20/11/2024 15:49

It's also on an official government website under the section about decontaminating yourself after a nuclear incident. "Do not use conditioner when washing your hair, as this can bind contamination to hair. Simple soaps or mild shampoos are effective for removing contamination."

Webpage was last updated 10th September 2024: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/radiation-emergencies-information-for-the-public/what-to-do-in-a-radiation-emergency

Oh thanks. I'd imagine it is more to do with a nuclear power accident where radiation is released rather than an all-out Armageddon, like you'd have running water!

To be honest, I'm more fearful that this may happen in Russia or Ukraine with all these missiles flying around, than of any nuclear strikes on NATO countries.

MarkWithaC · 20/11/2024 16:23

SuzieNine · 20/11/2024 15:56

Is that you Neville?

Grin
HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 20/11/2024 16:24

It's highly unlikely. More chance of disabling the nhs or shop systems. Airports etc.

More terrorist style attacks such as in Salisbury poisonings and so on.

Not that is a comfort.

milveycrohn · 20/11/2024 16:25

This reminds of the film in the 1960s, on what to do if there was a nuclear attack. Things like, 'Hide under the table'!!!!!!!

tinydynamine · 20/11/2024 16:29

Other countries (e.g.Sweden) remind their citizens periodically about (civil) emergency situations and how to be prepared. The UK government, regardless of its colour, does not believe in properly informing and protecting its citizens.

PocketSand · 20/11/2024 16:32

For all the reds under the beds rhetoric we should remember that the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons are the USA. The rationale was to end war. That worked out well.

The issue is that the increased involvement of NATO supports Putins narrative that this is a proxy war - NATO -v- Russia fought on the battleground of Ukraine. Long range missiles to attack inside Russia, land mines FFS. How can this be portrayed other than escalation?

Westfacing · 20/11/2024 16:38

Mekumeku · 20/11/2024 16:20

I have no idea what you are talking about. You are an excellent example of why universal suffrage was a terrible idea.

That's very rude - you might not know what the poster is talking about but some of us do!