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A role model for ordinary women? No, Miss England finalist is fat, lazy and a poster girl for ill health

82 replies

minorityrules · 03/04/2008 13:35

I can't believe this, what a nasty nasty piece. I think the girl looks lovely

www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=554870&in_page_id=1879

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Iklboo · 03/04/2008 13:37

I actually didn;t have to open that thread to get a good idea of what it said.

It IS from the Daily Screaming Ninny (asylum seekers cause cancer and housing market slump)

Kewcumber · 03/04/2008 13:44

anyone who thinks that a winner of the Miss UK beauty pageant is a "role model" for women IMVHO is deluded regardless of the size of the winner.

fryalot · 03/04/2008 13:44

She is gorgeous.

Fecking daily twunting mail. Hope that if she does read that article, she also reads ALL the comments, not just the selected few that the DM have chosen (three guesses what the ones they chose say, and three guesses what the ones they chose NOT to show say...)

Twiglett · 03/04/2008 13:47

she is gorgeous, but also she is blatantly overweight and looks much better in clothes

then again I think that models and many actresses are blatantly underweight and look better in clothes

there is a middle ground of healthy weights .. look at the dancers on 'so you think you can dance' etc

NotQuiteCockney · 03/04/2008 13:50

She is a bit heavier than she should be. But the BMI thing is used very oddly - normal BMI is 20 to 24.9. She's 26.3, hardly miles over. So the author keeps saying she should have a BMI of 20.

OrmIrian · 03/04/2008 13:51

Yes she is overweight. She is also beautiful. And how do they know she is lazy? Exercise doesn't neccessarily make you slim. She might be fit and fat. It is possible.

However I agree with kewcumber. Role model? Why?

schneebly · 03/04/2008 13:51

beautiful girl and a BMI of only 26? I thought the ideal was 20-25 no 20 as the article states in which case she is only slightly 'overweight'

Wonder what Monica Grenfell would think of me I could take her skinny ass!

Slouchy · 03/04/2008 13:53

She is lovely looking, but she IS fat, I'm afraid. And remember, she is not 35 and has not had 2 kids - she is a 17year old. She is likley to be quite a lot fatter in time.

hate the tone of the artcle though. typical of the Daily Misogynist

jellybeans · 03/04/2008 13:53

I think she is lovely hardley obese, I thought BMI 25-30 is overweight and over 30 is obese.

sherby · 03/04/2008 13:56

I hate that paper so much, they had some crappy article this morning in a "oh my god this woman had two children and look at her stomach" vein

Will try to find it, it made me so

wankers

appledumpling · 03/04/2008 13:57

I think she would look better in a bikini that fitted her properly but aside from that what's so wrong with her? So she's not a size 10? Big deal.

I've never taken my female role models from the world of fashion oddly enough.

It just reminds me why I never pick up the Daily Mail!

SheikYerbouti · 03/04/2008 13:58

Typical of the DM, this

I think she is stunning

I don;t think she's fat either, just on the larger side of "normal"

Monica Grenfell is a no-fun bitch anyway.

I'd much rather this girl be a role model if I had daughters than some skinny bint who got that way through living on a diet of coffee and fags.

I agree withn Kewcumber though - Beauty pageants are a load of sexist bullshit.

Aitch · 03/04/2008 14:00

she does look better in clothes, though. as does, as twig has already pointed out, the nicole ritchies of this world. hhhhhmmmmm, i don't know... she does look fat to me. (i'm not skinny, i should say). it is weird, though, i do see younger girls nowadays showing off bare midriffs etc that look fat to me as well, so perhaps it's just a shift in what's acceptable? i never know if that's a good thing or not, tbh.

btw, has anyone noticed the healthy weights of the girls competing on 'I'd Do Anything' by the way? many of them are a bit plumplicious, look great, sing better etc. i'd hope that they'd be more accessible role models to young girls, Saturday night telly etc. seems to me that seeing them all working hard, taking care of their voices, pursuing their dream etc is more likely to inspire than traipsing around shopping cnetres in a bikini.

nickytwotimes · 03/04/2008 14:01

The Daily Mail - home of misogynistic journos.

Also misinformed journos - BMI should be between 20-25.

yorkishbirdy · 03/04/2008 14:08

I am confused - I actually read the article (against my better judgement) it seems to be syaing that it is better to be a size 0 than a size 16... or am I missing something?

Because I admit that having a healthy BMI is best, so being over is not great but what would the BMI be on a girl who was a size 0? It has to be way under 20 hasn't it? I am confident that is worse...

SheikYerbouti · 03/04/2008 14:10

It's much healthier to be slightly overwieight than be under weight.

This girl has a good hip to ratio as well, thereby she carried he weight in the "best" place - ie not near her heart

Niecie · 03/04/2008 14:13

She is an attractive girl but she is fat, imho. I say that as somebody whose thighs are as big as hers and who wouldn't fit in a size 16!

However, the DM article is plain nasty, and as others have pointed out, wrong. Who are they to say that she is unhealty and unfit. They know nothing about her lifestyle, I would suggest.

I don't think she is necessarily a role model though, except to show that size is not necessarily a barrier to looking attractive.

Yes, Aitch I had noticed that some of the girls on I'd do anything are not size zero but imo Nancy should be a bit of a wench, with an ample and comfortable motherly bosom - I don't think she was a stick insect

NoBiggy · 03/04/2008 14:14

I went to school with Miss England of 20-ish years ago. She was glam, but barmy.

meemar · 03/04/2008 14:16

whatever message the article was trying to convey was lost in the mean way it was written. It must have been very hurtful for her to read.

Shabby journalism.

NotQuiteCockney · 03/04/2008 14:20

Christ on a bike ... that article sherby linked to ...

I have a "Hated by the Daily Mail" tshirt somewhere. These articles remind me of why I wear it with pride.

legacy · 03/04/2008 14:24

Well, it's a badly written piece, and I'm not a Daily Mail fan.... BUT I DO actually agree with the broad sentiment of the article.

Even some of the comments here demonstrate the reality of what the journalist is saying i.e. that as a society, we have begun to 'normalise' obesity, and that in itself will cause huge problems for future generations.

To those that say, she is 'beautiful' or 'healthy', well, sorry, but she's not. She is certainly overweight and most probably unhealthily obese.

Yes, she has a very pretty face, and she might indeed be stunning if she was within a healthy weight range.

How sad that she has chosen to put herself in the firing line like this. I hope she dosn't come to regret it.

Of course it's simplistic and nasty to say that she's lazy/ eats too much. Yes, the balance of her eating/ exercise/ lifestyle is wrong, and needs to be urgently addressed.

crumpet · 03/04/2008 14:27

Agree with Legacy

Aitch · 03/04/2008 14:29

i think dickens' nancy would likely have been a scrawny teenager, tbh.

Heated · 03/04/2008 14:31

I have no problems with her weight.

I do have a problem with her be described as a role model for other girls - what to pose in a bikini is being a role model? I'd have the same issue if she were super-skinny.

tortoiseSHELL · 03/04/2008 14:32

The Daily Mail has an article EVERY DAY about some poor woman and how disgusting they are because they are fat/thin/have a wobble tummy/have no tummy/have boobs/are flat chested/have cellulite/have stick thin legs/have children/don't have children/work/don't work......

The daily mail hates women.

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