A role model for ordinary women? No, Miss England finalist is fat, lazy and a poster girl for ill health

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I can't believe this, what a nasty nasty piece. I think the girl looks lovely

www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=554870&in_page_id=1879

Well if she doesn't win, she can always flatten the judges. That'll show them .

I thought a size 16 was pushing the barrier a little, Maralin M was reputedly a size 16 and so I went and found ome pictures here if you want to look

It turns out MM would have been an american size 2 or 4 now, but back then she could well have been a size 16.

Sizes have gotten small to please woman so size really isn't a any good as a measure.

This girl looks to me to be far larger than my mother - who in her day was a size 16 and curvy.

It does appear though whatever size you are isn't right, you are to skinny, to fat, to muscley and fit, to slobby and lazy.

Overall though as a nation there is no getting away from it we are getting bigger and then it becomes the norm.

Nothing is wrong with it if you can recognise it for what it is Desi - as I am sure that you do. I am as nosy/bitchy/drively as the next person. But I don't kid myself that this is news.

Meanwhile the world if full of real problems and campaigning to end them could make a life feel quite meaningful as well.

A few more DM stories....

Celine Dion's furry legs - note this is referring to her THIGHS.

skeletal Celine Dion

Myleene gets her love handles airbrushed

Age catches up with Goldie Hawn - who SHOCK HORROR is wearing no make up and is 62!!!!

According to the link posted here, the author of that article is a 'nutritionist' NOT a dietitian. Two very different things. Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. Dietitians are properly qualified specialists with a degree, who can work in the NHS.

The smug, patronising people who go 'ooh, let's all have a go at anyone who is overweight' are reflecting their own insecurities. Sadly one side-effect of the public focus on obesity has been to give nasty pieces of work an excuse to put the boot in.

FWIW a BMI of 26 is NOT obese. And no ordinary member of the public can possibly judge how healthy or unhealthy another person is by looking at picture. You have no idea of the state of someone else's arteries, FFS!

And my personal favourite here....

Kate Garraway PILES ON THE POUNDS - look at the pics!

I hate that saying, about 'piling on the pounds' as though putting on weight is a treasonable offence.

I would be more worried about any 18 yr old who wants to line up and be judged on her looks for what?It is an outdated sexist pile of crap and if she really wanted to do anything for women then she chose a strange thing inho.She is overweight for a teenager but I agree it is badly written and nasty

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Bit concerned by a dietician who doesn't understand BMI's

I have never read the daily mail before and am shocked at the "journalism" - a child could write a more well-argued piece than that.

I think she's undeniably pretty and also undeniably fat. I do agree that we shouldn't normalise obesity and say it's ok because health-wise it isn't. It's perhaps just as bad as claiming that being a size 0 is normal and healthy.

What's really sad out of all of this is what Kew says - why is she being feted/slated in terms of being a role model?

In fact, is there a single decent female role model around? Harriet Harman & Co? WAGS? Kate Moss? Carla Sarkozy? purleeeeeeasssse.

Would it be so hard for the media to every once in a while give a little space to the likes of Martha Lane Fox, for example? The last time I saw a serious professional female on TV (Prof Regan) they had got her acting like Claire Raynor on some shite little cheapo documentary. Makes me to think that as far as the media are concerned we're at the same level as the woman in the OXO ads.

That Miss World is a (very pretty) heifer but the meanness of those DM pics. defies belief.
Celine Dion's hairy legs??? Wtf. It is normal to have fine hairs on your upper limbs.

Unbelievable.

In fairness, branflake, the 'journalism' was probably in response to her own publicity seeking comments. She has been on BBC1 News saying that she wants to be a role model for ordinary women.

I think she's lovely and I posted a message digging her...

But. seriously, why can't there be a middle ground. All the normal contestants have a BMI of about 18 and then there's one who controversially has a bmi of 26.

I'd just prefer to see the average bmi go up a bit from about 18 to about 22. No headlines, no drama.... Just a bit more flesh on everybody's bones, no song and dance.

ToroiseShell, Their other favourite story which they trot out very regularly, is
I was a career woman earning 100k a year but I was miserable because I was 38 with no children. NOw I have met Mr Right and I have a child and I'm living on a working farm and I am so deleriously happy.

i'd rather see a pretty girl like that than a stick, actually. Ok, she should maybe lose a bit of weight being so young, but why on earth don't painfully underweight young women get the same kind of journalistic abuse? Misogyny strikes again.

Disgusting article.
What a surprise
All these things are linked- many girls comfort eat because they do not conform to the skinny ideal and so the self loathing begins

I agree with the idea that obesity is becoming normalised within our society but that as the population ais getting fatter then most the images that women and girls are told to aspire to by the media are getting thinner and ever more unattainable.

So yes, she is overweight. There is actually very little evidence that your health is affected significantly by being a little overweight (as opposed to being obese) if you remain active and eat a balanced diet.

Should we say that this is the ideal body/weight for women and girls to aim for? No because if that is given as the ideal then those who are obese will say "ooh well I'm just a bit bigger than that, so not bad at all" when actually they are at risk of health complications related to their weight.

I don't think that anyone aims to be overweight/obese LAdI

I don't have any role models who are celebs are beauty queens-does anyone, really?

wtf is she described as lazy???
actually a BMI of 26 is really not a huge problem.
why does the journalist think 20 is what she should be??

You know, a large part of the 'obesity epidemic' is caused by the pressure to be unnaturally slim in the first place. The whole slimming industry is a big misogynistic con trick, just like religion: show people something that's pretty much unobtainable and offer them shortcuts to obtaining it in return for money, but make sure you keep peddling the bullshit that unless they buy into what you are selling they are wicked, loathsome, failures etc.
Persuading women who are healthily curvy that they 'need to lose a few pounds' ie look more like boys (with no tits or hips) means that they diet a bit, which damages their metabolisms, so when they eat normally, they gain more wieght than they have lost; they diet again, stop dieting and regain more weight, damaging themselves further, etc, etc. Better chubby and active than swinging from huge to starved and back again for the rest of your life.