man 5 months pregnant..

[wannaBe]

I've heard it all now

Agree with point about the facial hair. Can't see any scars from the mastectomy either - could be covered with make up, though.

From the Guardian:

"Fox News has been investigating the story and says the biggest clue that this may be a hoax lies in the revelation that Beattie is under a confidentiality contract, which ends on April Fools' Day ? April 1. Beattie says that he won't be speaking to the media until then."

All VERY strange! I await with interest for what is said on April 1st!

Why the fuss? The story is consistent and makes sense, her wife has had to have a hysterectomy and the couple desperately wanted a child. The husband in this case was biologically female with a perfectly functional womb and ovaries. They say they used sperm from a sperm bank.

No more extraordinary than any woman getting pregnant with donor sperm.

The original magazine article is here

Oh for heaven's sake, it's not a hoax, it's something that does happen in the trans community for a number of reasons. Plenty of trans men - including some who are extremely prominent trans activists - have not undergone the rather crude surgery to change their genitalia. As Anchovy points out, they identify and are treated as men. And as Upwind points out, it's completely sensible.

About a third of the trans community identifies as queer, too, so there are some male-male partnerships where one partner decides to go through with pregnancy.

I have to say I do not find this particularly weird but clearly I am in minority here .

I worked with a woman who was transgendered and had started off life physically male. Her first relationship post op was a lesbian one. I think that she is now bi by preference.

Some folks are different, and that includes all of us.

I'm not sure why people are so horrified by this. Seems they made a sensible decision to have a child which they will no doubt love and cherish the same way as nearly everyone else in the world. Families are made up in all sorts of different ways. Goes back to that thing about respecting everyone.

I'm certainly not horrified by it but puzzled by the hormones re facial hair whilst supporting a pregnancy.

I find it interesting that he seems to identify so strongly with being male despite being apparently pregnant.

I am also suspicious about the proximity to April Fool's Day.

it does look like it is going to turn out to be a hoax, their neighbours say that a couple of weeks ago he certainly wasn't pregnant so for him to now have a visible bump.

And all the stuff I have only seen one photo that could easily have been doctored.

They have also said they will make a full press statement on the 1st of April.

I understand the biology of how it can be possible, no problem with it atall, just don't think it is real.

On news now.

Just showed scan and heard haertbeat of his daughter.

This was on bbc breakfast today. The presenters made tits of themselves trying to get their heads around it.

I was just reading this on the bbc website. I'm not sure why they are calling "him" a man. I would have thought that, even for a post-op transexual, having all your female reproductive organs must mean that you cannot be a man. In the report it says that "he" deliberately kept all the female organs so that s/he could have a child. Now that's what I call having your cake and eating it.... or perhaps that's an unfortunate phrase in this context!

If s/he is carrying a child and plans to give birth, I'm sorry but that's a woman. Not sure where that leaves the marriage.

I'm not sure what I think about this.. on the one hand I have respect for the difficulties of being transgender.. but I dont understand the wanting to be a man but not actually having all the surgery... very perplexing... if happy be happy but why write about it and put it in the press?

Just because their neighbours didn't know of the pregnancy doesn't mean s/he wasn't pregnant. Some people don't show at all, others only show later on.

On a chromosome level he is a she though, but on a mental level she is a he.

Each to their own i guess.

[SGK's head exploses at this] soooo confusing and mind bending...

Because she's still a female inside - uterus, ovaries, two XX chromosomes.

hm....seeing that biological this man is actually still a woman (even if not legally)...it's not really that weird, is it? It's not like in that movie "Junior"!
But I do wonder if the pg hormones will have an impact on the emotional side of things...as mentioned before, pg can change one so much...!
The only thing that might be weird is that the beard is still growing so well, etc...dispite the lack of testosterone injections over a prolonged period, would have thought that those would be the thing that define a person as a him...if that makes sense at all!

The reason not to have the surgery is that it's still pretty crude and ineffective. As far as I remember, a number of very prominent transmen activists haven't had it.

When I trained as a nurse I was actually able to observe a surgery where they constructed a penis on a transgender woman to man....and well, especially that way round apparently it's rather difficult to get a satisfying result...the otehr way round it's easier, well, visually anyway....

Anyone watch 'Sex Change Hospital'?

The surgeon is transgender herself, she is still a qualified OB/GYN, and she discusses some of the difficulties with female to male changes.

She admitted she doesn't like doing vaginectomies because they're very, very bloody with a lot of potential to go wrong.

She did a hysterectomy once, however, and it took all her skill to be able to do it vaginally. For one, the person had never had children before, making it harder to remove the uterus and other organs vaginally, but an even bigger factor was the effect the male hormones had on the anatomy.

I heard that too, it renders you pretty much incapable of a sex life, so I can understand why you wouldn't do it.

yes, because they can't really create a penis that works the way a real one would, or testicles.

she gave someone fake testicles on Sex Change Hospital once, though.

All very strange. The most feminine thing I have ever done is be pregnant. To me it's like wearing heals, or a short skirt, or having long hair. All very strange.

At what point can you legally change sex - I'm a woman with all a woman's bits, if I hd my boobs operated on and took hormones I could legally become a man?

How do you legally become a man?