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Respect for dead "at all time low"

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varicoseveined · 13/02/2008 08:22

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TigerFeet · 14/02/2008 12:04

From a more practical pov when my Grandad died I didn't know how to get to the crematorium (he lived in a different town and oddly enough I hadn't registered where the crem was . I had to follow the cortege and so did others. If we had been cut in front of there would have been a good chance that we woudn't have found our way. I suppose the more practical out there would think that maps could have been provided (like at our wedding) but in our grief we did not want to be thinking of minutiae and with a death there isn't the time to prepare in advance like for a wedding or whatever. After all, death isn't like birth or marriage is it?

I always let a cortege go by unhindered and thankfully haven't seen too many incidences where that hasn't happened. It's a couple of minutes tops out of my life that makes a huge difference to someone else.

As for the labouring woman etc... how often would that happen? Not as often as funeral corteges are interrupted. Something rather nice about the thought though - circle of life etc etc.

charliecat · 14/02/2008 12:09

I saw a hearse overtaking one day, using the bus lane
It was empty, and they must have been in a hurry to get back to reload. The driver had a wicked look on his face of mischief and the passenger had his face covered by his hands
One of the funniest sights ive ever seen

FioFio · 14/02/2008 12:11

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Unfitmother · 14/02/2008 12:12

My Dad's cortege got stuck behind a bin lorry on a country lane, that slowed us all down

MAMAZON · 14/02/2008 12:15

i was bought up to stop and wait while a funeral courtege went by.

my grandad would always hold his coller.

we certainly wouldn't be allowed to speak until they had passed.

OrmIrian · 14/02/2008 12:22

TBH I don't have respect for the dead. They are past caring. I do have respect for those they leave behind, and whingeing about being held up for 10 mins shows a staggering lack of respect as well as a quite revoltingly exagerated sense of your own importance. We don't have to be time poor, we make ourselves so.

InLoveWithSweenyTodd · 14/02/2008 12:56

well said, ormIrian.

ivykaty44 · 14/02/2008 13:41

Charlie cat - they arn't always empty, there is a special compartment which is hiden and sometimes they have been on a special errand

charliecat · 14/02/2008 13:43

special errand? Please explain?

madamez · 14/02/2008 14:05

Oh FFS. People are dying all the time, the average crem generally handles four or five funerals a day. That's a lot of regular inconvenience for people who live nearby. THis business of the whole town shutting down might have been feasible (and might still be) in small communities where everyone knows everyone, but it isn;t practical in crowded urban areas full of people who have plenty going on in their own lives without having to worry about bereaved strangers every couple of hours.
And all this whining about how 'disrespectful' it is to cut in on a funeral procession, you don't know the reason why another person is in a terrible hurry. Why should your feelings automatically be more important than theirs?

triplets · 14/02/2008 14:39

May I ask if you have ever lost someone very close to you? This whole thing has made me feel sad today, so much so that I cycled this morning to the cemetery and sat in front of my darling sons and Dads headstone. Reading Matthews name is something I will never get used to, it hurts. People are selfish these days, always in a hurry, I am sorry but we can all give a little of our time.

expatinscotland · 14/02/2008 14:46

Yes, madamez, one's personal convenience must supercede everything else.

That post epitomises 'There is no society'.

piximon · 14/02/2008 14:56

Until recently I lived on a very busy council estate in London. The fact that we might encounter several funerals a day did nothing to discourage the fact that I was brought up to stop when a funeral procession passed. I encourage my children to do the same out of respect for the deceased and also for their family.

On a lighter note, on first encountering a horse drawn hearse DS1 then nearly 3 announced at the top of his voice "that horse is pulling a giant fish tank". I could only hope anyone hearing would not be offended.

frumpygrumpy · 14/02/2008 15:02

pixi hello!!

Triplets, you stay strong xxx I feel sad that this thread has stirred up personal stuff for you because I see how hard you fight to carry it. Your darling Matthew remains a handsome darling and this thread should not go hand in hand with him.

moonmother · 14/02/2008 15:11

My Nan's Brother died a few years ago and our family were the only mourners.

We didn't bother with a funeral car ,only the hearse and followed in our cars behind.

He lived on a huge housing estate and I can remember being incredibly moved by all the middle aged and elderly people that stopped at the kerb-side and bowed they're heads as we went past.

I hadn't seen this before so I asked my Mum why they did it and she said as respect for the dead and their bereaved,the only other funeral I'd been to before was my Nan's and then I was just too devastated to even look out the window.

Ever since I do the same,and have bought my Dc to show their respect also.

Are our lives so busy now that we can't spare 2 minutes out of our day to show some respect to grieving families?

triplets · 14/02/2008 15:15

Fg............you are a dear friend xx

iamdingdong · 14/02/2008 15:23

triplets and shabster you have both been through so much, don't let the petty self centredness of people like madamez taint your memories, most of us are not like that x

hazygirl · 14/02/2008 15:37

yesterday i attended the funeral of a man i have looked after for over a decade, he has one brother, he would have been the only person to attend if the twlve staff hadnt turned up, he was actually buried facing jayden. this chap h ad no visitors , the service given by undertakers showed they couldnt give a dam either,big company.,unlike the small company we used, but i did think so many people dont care,triplets keep your chin up i know its hard and i know what u mean it cuts so deep seeing the names where we do xx

southeastastra · 14/02/2008 15:47

it's nice to see that the majority of posters on this thread are decent human beings with feelings.

i was amazed when we were driven to the crematorium for my mum's funeral at how many strangers stopped, took off hats etc. the schoolgirls at the catholic school crossed themselves.

it says something about society when people are so self-important that this would inconvenience them. i guess they shouldn't live near creamatoriums etc if they're that cold hearted.

shabster · 14/02/2008 15:57

Afternoon trips - this thread had me sat up until the early hours this morning - seething. I was also back on here first thing. I have come to the conclusion that a huge percentage of people in this god forsaken country we live in couldnt give a damn for anyone or anything.

It is left to people who could care less to teach their children to have compassion, humour, manners, loyalty, and pride.

We, as people who have had bereavment of the worst kind - the loss of a child - just have to stick together and support each other. Leave the 'clever dicks' to their own little world.

OMG here I am again ranting on this horrible thread

shabster · 14/02/2008 16:00

frumpygrumpy - this thread got me going last night and today just like it has done with triplet.

I know I shouldnt but I take some comments as a personal attack - yes I know they arent - but even now, so many years down the line for me, I have times when I feel raw

FioFio · 14/02/2008 16:01

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Saggarmakersbottomknocker · 14/02/2008 16:06

It's a reflection of the lack of respect in society in general.

Triplets and Shabster - I am so sorry for your losses.

unknownrebelbang · 14/02/2008 16:33

It's a sad day when I can't show a little courtesy to a funeral cortege passing by.

There will always be someone in genuine need of rushing somewhere. The vast majority however are just in a rush and imho inconsiderate.