Missing woman

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BBC News - Nicola Bulley: Partner describes perpetual hell over missing mum
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-64450243

Just been reading about this. How awful for her partner and children. Really hope she is found soon

Just to add, most of those reported missing are found again - around 97% of them turn up within one week of going missing. Indeed, around 75% of those that go missing are found within 24 hours.

I stand corrected, I've never seen a of with keys on the lead but clearly it's a thing although we know a lack of pockets isn't a factor here

Don't you worry that if your dog was to be spooked and run off you wouldn't be able to get into your car/house? How do you carry your phone?

I just hope she's found safe, I have young children and I'm a similar age, I can't imagine this lady has chosen to disappear. Her poor family, especially those little girls, just awful.

Shocking, particularly resonates with all dog walking school Mums. Hoping and praying for some news today. Can’t imagine what her poor children family and friends are going through as I don’t even know her but I’m glued to this thread.

that depends. If walking her dog was part of her routine, then not walking it and leaving it at home could possibly have alerted whoever might be home to the fact that she hadn’t come home sooner.

If she wanted time to disappear then taking the dog for its walk would have given her that time before her disappearance became obvious.

Poor lady. I hope she didn't meet someone who turned out to want to harm her :(

Thing is we make those assumptions based on our own thinking.

I haven’t read any of the articles, but atm we don’t seem to know anything about her life, her state of mind, etc, so what to us may seem unthinkable might be less so to someone who wanted to get away.

Yeah maybe. I guess she wouldn’t have been thinking straight anyway if she was thinking of disappearing but can’t help thinking that she wouldn’t leave her dog at risk like that. My dog also would follow me, guaranteed.

Never heard of people attaching keys to dog surely with the weather would be wearing a coat.
People go missing all the time never make it on national TV so what's different about this case. Think the police know alot more then they are telling.

Sal

The almost certainly do know much more, they always do, warning people it was really dangerous near the edge was a clue. However other people (not you) seem convinced police are deliberately lying about them not thinking someone else is involved, I have never known them to do this.

There has been a lot of mention of her wellingtons in the various reports, is it possible to cross the river in wellies at certain times?

The almost certainly do know much more, they always do, warning people it was really dangerous near the edge was a clue. However other people (not you) seem convinced police are deliberately lying about them not thinking someone else is involved, I have never known them to do this. I absolutely have. It’s not lying, in the absence of any evidence this is currently a missing person’s enquiry.

That doesn’t mean that they do think a third party is involved, but they won’t have ruled out the possibility, and the longer this goes on the more they will lean towards that possibility.

If they’re searching a house as someone said up-thread then it seems clear that they’re at the very least not considering this as an accident.

I also think putting house keys/car Keys on a dog is incredibly unusual as pp said dogs run off all the time. She was also wearing a coat.

This is of major public interest. People do not want to hear a lovely mum has suddenly vanished after dropping her children at school, logging into work and then off to walk her dog.

Women in the area will want to know that it is safe to walk alone at the moment or if there is someone walking around who could potentially be looking to harm them. The Police have said this is not the case we should believe and respect what they are saying otherwise I think they would be advising local women to be vigilant etc.

If the dog's lead and harness (probably containing the dog at that point, so he didn't follow her - he may have wriggled free later) were tied to the bench, and her keys attached to its collar, it does seem to suggest that she may have suddenly decided to disappear and leave her old life behind. Rather like Agatha Christie did at one point. Has there been any mention of whether or not her bank account has been used since Friday? I do hope she's found safe and sound, and whatever difficulties she's been facing can be resolved.

@MayThe4th right....and this isn't!? At least on web sleuths there is the attempt to fact check and not spread misinformation

@JacquotteDelahaye were there not suspicions around Ian Huntley, last person to see girls, & the police effectively gave him enough rope?

Re: Policewoman giving ‘official’ interview I noted she said ‘the phone was found an hour LATER’. ‘Later’ after what?. A 999 call?

I think the "hour later" refers to either the time she was last seen. The man with the dog saw her at around 9.15am, or an hour after the police were called, which was around 10.30 am when the dog was found wandering alone.

For the non locals, the river at that point isn't particularly wide, however, the bank is steep and incredibly slippery. This can be seen by the photos of the bench and some of the other river shots. The river floods over the banks quite regularly. There is a road/foot bridge not far from where her things were found. I don't think anyone would be able to easily wade over, at least not without being seen.
As I stated previously, it can take some considerable time for something that goes into the river in that area to re-appear. In some cases an animal has been lost there and turned up some weeks later, as it washes out into the estuary/sea 13 miles away.

@SilhouetteOfAHead how awful to think she likely (?) slipped & fell. Fairly shallow? Surely if not fast flowing water would stay in vicinity? Tragic all round.

Yes, many a murderer has being caught letting something slip only they would know, careful consideration is always given to how much information is given out for that reason.
That is strange re "an hour later" if she didn't specify, perhaps she means after the member of the public found Willow and rang police
Link Mirror story

What’s the timeline & do we know with certainty who called 999 & when?

Is the timeline like this:

? Drops kids at school. Leaves car there.

Walks to river towpath - seen by someone at 9:15

10:15 someone finds the loose dog and takes it to the school (maybe recognised the dog / knew the owner or her route).

School rings her partner to say ‘we have your dog’ partner calls police (before going to collect dog / look for partner) and police turn up at 10:30am to search for her?

Is it usual for police to respond like that - I thought someone had to be missing 24hrs before they would consider them missing - because she could have just been further along looking for her dog?

Is it likely she had a MH vulnerability that alarmed the partner and the immediate police response was a welfare check?

Thanks for link, etc.

Odd a loose dog promoted someone to call 999? Pre her partner being aware (?)

I thought someone had to be missing 24hrs before they would consider them missing
Not true.

"I know you can get weirdos anywhere but isn’t it quite a posh area there? Not exactly awash with criminal types"

It's on a main road to Blackpool just down the road.

"It's very long dog walk to do by yourself."

Eh? About half an hour if that.

"Lots of my dog walking clothes don’t have pockets (active wear) so putting the keys on the collar isn’t that strange."

That's nice. But not what she was wearing.