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MyOldCaravan · 30/01/2023 21:12

BBC News - Nicola Bulley: Partner describes perpetual hell over missing mum
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-64450243

Just been reading about this. How awful for her partner and children. Really hope she is found soon

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coteliq · 03/02/2023 07:18

WombsofWimbledon · 03/02/2023 07:04

I have a horrible feeling that she was throwing the ball for the dog and stepped accidentally backwards off the edge, into the water. It would explain the dog not seeing where she went / not being wet. Phone put down to walk around if she had earbuds in. Falling backwards you’d likely bang your head.

I also saw the edge from the edge from the bench and thought it does look dangerous.

But the parents were saying there were no signs of falling or slipping so I'm baffled. Unless someone jumps / dives in from high up, there must be footmarks of falling / slipping.

Dunkindonuts8 · 03/02/2023 07:21

Also to add, re the kidnapping theory. I think that seems unlikely too. From the map, it would be a bit of a trek to get Nicola to a vehicle. Broad daylight, known dog walking area, someone connected to a call (and they wouldn't know she was muted and not going to alert them that she was being attacked). I don't know. It just seems unlikely?

Renoir56 · 03/02/2023 07:34

I still think there is a piece of the jigsaw the police aren't sharing. Early on they said they didn't believe there had been any criminal activity and they must have based that on something they knew or have been told.

newfence · 03/02/2023 07:40

@Renoir56 that's been my thought all along

ofwarren · 03/02/2023 08:00

WombsofWimbledon · 03/02/2023 07:04

I have a horrible feeling that she was throwing the ball for the dog and stepped accidentally backwards off the edge, into the water. It would explain the dog not seeing where she went / not being wet. Phone put down to walk around if she had earbuds in. Falling backwards you’d likely bang your head.

This sounds the most plausible. Would definitely explain the dogs confusion.

60smusic · 03/02/2023 08:08

It's all very sad and I really feel for her family and I hope they get answers soon. If I may ask, why is suicide being ruled out by people commenting online on different sites?

TintyMinty · 03/02/2023 08:27

60smusic · 03/02/2023 08:08

It's all very sad and I really feel for her family and I hope they get answers soon. If I may ask, why is suicide being ruled out by people commenting online on different sites?

Ruled out by whom? The police? I doubt it - but I expect speculation around how and why is insensitive unpalatable speculation

Peverellshire · 03/02/2023 08:33

@Dunkindonuts8

Great post.

Interesting re: your view on the dog potentially drying out AND slipping harness.

IF she fell in water by the bench, the water is mill pond calm & locals have said IF she fell in that spot they feel that, and the intermittent shallowness of water, makes it feel unlikely body swept out to sea. A lack of water ‘force’. I was struck by someone saying in some spots they struggle with pooh sticks with kids.

It’s not as if she fell into the sea itself. It would be good to hear the opinion of expert divers on above and of course these experts will know better than anyone else & will be working closely with the police.

Add to this that the police acted very swiftly and have thrown every resource at a forensic type search.

Anomalies/ context:

  1. Ignoring the sister’s text on spa day received night before, especially as apparently very much out of character to do so.
  2. Securing a mortgage on home v close to disappearance date
  3. Police ruling out foul play v early on & telling family they felt v unlikely
  4. The out of hours work meeting night before that led to meeting boss in Garstang - unusual for her?
  5. The subsequent call with ‘new important client’ that required parents giving childcare - again, the norm? Or not? Night before
  6. Whilst the police are open to other possibilities they feel this is a missing persons case - see 3.
  7. Did she meet someone habitually on walk family & friends not aware about?

Occam’s razor says she simply met with an
accident and fell in, possibly on a different spot on the river? The area of river in front of bench a red herring.

Mobile phone data will provide more helpful context and information as police have said.

The families pain is palpable and so moving. Ambiguous loss is a special kind of hell. Hopefully there will be some closure and progress soon.

Jebboo · 03/02/2023 08:37

Allgoodthings1 · 02/02/2023 22:39

I just searched her name on Twitter to see if there was any update and one of the latest tweets was a cctv picture of a man in dark jacket and hat saying the police are looking to speak to him. I can’t find anything else on the internet about this man though so don’t want to share it on here

twitter.com/samsochii/status/1621264976198488064?s=46&t=J9SJTZxJP9t8hHgldtMXqw

LentilsAndCream · 03/02/2023 08:41

That's extremely dodgy @Jebboo so there is a guy who follows three people who have similar names to NB who is a religious fanatic and who speaks about adduction plus who looks like the guys they have on CCTV? Can anyone share that CCTV picture?

LentilsAndCream · 03/02/2023 08:42

The guy's called Simon or that's what he calls himself on Strava. Weird as f.

Peverellshire · 03/02/2023 08:49

@Renoir56 @newfence agree - NB: my post on anomalies/context above. The meeting in Garstang, work call, email to boss, unusually ignored & context of teams call. Police thinking foul play unlikely.

Falling into river seems most plausible/tragic accident, seems most likely & yet very problematic. Do the experts searching river feel NOT finding her or any sign anomalous?

They acted VERY swiftly with the search operation & are focusing attention on the tidal part of river, falling in by bench feels unlikely on face value. The timeline again is so tight it points to a tragic accident.

60smusic · 03/02/2023 08:51

TintyMinty · 03/02/2023 08:27

Ruled out by whom? The police? I doubt it - but I expect speculation around how and why is insensitive unpalatable speculation

I don't know about the police. They haven't really said much.

My query was regarding 'people commenting online'

People will speculate, it's human nature. EVERY single report online that has comments enabled has people putting their views and opinions forward. Every scenario has been mentioned, however, when I see the very few comments mentioning suicide, they are shot down immediately and posters jumped on for even mentioning it.

LentilsAndCream · 03/02/2023 08:52

Peverellshire · 03/02/2023 08:49

@Renoir56 @newfence agree - NB: my post on anomalies/context above. The meeting in Garstang, work call, email to boss, unusually ignored & context of teams call. Police thinking foul play unlikely.

Falling into river seems most plausible/tragic accident, seems most likely & yet very problematic. Do the experts searching river feel NOT finding her or any sign anomalous?

They acted VERY swiftly with the search operation & are focusing attention on the tidal part of river, falling in by bench feels unlikely on face value. The timeline again is so tight it points to a tragic accident.

What is this meeting in Garstang? Haven't heard that mentioned before.

Peverellshire · 03/02/2023 08:57

@Jebboo @Allgoodthings1 I can’t see any post from man you flag?

How many others did this man follow I wonder, there are some generic oddballs out there. Good Lancs police aware.

Link says a man has now deleted all previous posts.

The timeline so tight for anything sinister and many in area?

LilLilLi · 03/02/2023 09:03

Peverellshire · 03/02/2023 08:57

@Jebboo @Allgoodthings1 I can’t see any post from man you flag?

How many others did this man follow I wonder, there are some generic oddballs out there. Good Lancs police aware.

Link says a man has now deleted all previous posts.

The timeline so tight for anything sinister and many in area?

He only followed 3 accounts, all by the name Nicola Bulley or Nicky Bulley.

Is this a confirmed source? It changes things slightly if so, although his bio says he lives in Camberley which is near Surrey isn’t it?

LilLilLi · 03/02/2023 09:03

@Peverellshire sorry, he follows three accounts on Strava I mean

NotLater · 03/02/2023 09:04

And among the deleted posts, as mentioned on Twitter, were posts about abduction.

Peverellshire · 03/02/2023 09:07

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nicola-bulley-texted-friend-significant-29119093?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

@LentilsAndCream meeting in Garstang with boss.

Also NB: texting friend about a playdate just after 9:00am.

Peverellshire · 03/02/2023 09:09

@LilLilLi thanks, police saying they want to interview man in dark coat & black hat, is there a link?

LilLilLi · 03/02/2023 09:13

@Peverellshire i haven’t seen anything just these images from the Twitter link above. The messages look like Facebook messenger to Nicki on the 7th December? I can’t work it out

Missing woman
Missing woman
Missing woman
LilLilLi · 03/02/2023 09:15

Oh it looks like Facebook comments actually on her post from 7th Dec.

Peverellshire · 03/02/2023 09:19

@LilLilLi concerning. The comment apparently from NB almost off screen!

Nimblesandbimbles · 03/02/2023 09:46

Peverellshire · 03/02/2023 08:33

@Dunkindonuts8

Great post.

Interesting re: your view on the dog potentially drying out AND slipping harness.

IF she fell in water by the bench, the water is mill pond calm & locals have said IF she fell in that spot they feel that, and the intermittent shallowness of water, makes it feel unlikely body swept out to sea. A lack of water ‘force’. I was struck by someone saying in some spots they struggle with pooh sticks with kids.

It’s not as if she fell into the sea itself. It would be good to hear the opinion of expert divers on above and of course these experts will know better than anyone else & will be working closely with the police.

Add to this that the police acted very swiftly and have thrown every resource at a forensic type search.

Anomalies/ context:

  1. Ignoring the sister’s text on spa day received night before, especially as apparently very much out of character to do so.
  2. Securing a mortgage on home v close to disappearance date
  3. Police ruling out foul play v early on & telling family they felt v unlikely
  4. The out of hours work meeting night before that led to meeting boss in Garstang - unusual for her?
  5. The subsequent call with ‘new important client’ that required parents giving childcare - again, the norm? Or not? Night before
  6. Whilst the police are open to other possibilities they feel this is a missing persons case - see 3.
  7. Did she meet someone habitually on walk family & friends not aware about?

Occam’s razor says she simply met with an
accident and fell in, possibly on a different spot on the river? The area of river in front of bench a red herring.

Mobile phone data will provide more helpful context and information as police have said.

The families pain is palpable and so moving. Ambiguous loss is a special kind of hell. Hopefully there will be some closure and progress soon.

Had she secured a mortgage on a home nearby? I haven’t seen that reported. That’s interesting if so, though I guess maybe she was planning to let it rather than live in it.

Whatafielddayfortheheat · 03/02/2023 09:49

@Peverellshire I can't see the message from Nicola almost offscreen that you mention?

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