Lucy Letby Trial

[BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz]

no comments on opinion - just comments on reported info during trial

Please let's not get this thread deleted people.

Anyone following along? I'm curious as to the silence on the Sky News site where earlier and yesterday there were posts every 10/15minutes there's been nothing for hours.

Interesting update today- she confessed to the murders through notes she wrote.

Very interesting!

Those notes aren’t necessarily a confession. My dh is a Dr and regularly berates himself when a patient dies, he has on the odd occasion even said things like “I probably killed them” even when he has given the very best of care! It’s not that unusual for HCPs to blame themselves.

It’s totally bizarre that following concerns about her she was moved to the day shift rather than being suspended pending investigation. Unless that’s been misreported?

The only thing I want to say is, I don’t understand why. If she did this, why did she do it?

What reason does she have for doing something as awful as this

Those notes are not from someone feeling distraught at what happened like a G.P might do though!!!!

There's a world of difference

It’s difficult to say whether she has serious mental health problems and has convinced herself she’s responsible or whether it’s a straight confession.

She will have been assessed for mental health issues as she's obviously fit enough to stand trial

Which prison was she in I wonder!?

Christopher Jefferies is always the person who springs to mind as an example of how terribly a persons life can be ruined in this way. there is 0 comparison there Christopher Jeffreys was never actually charged with a crime. He was arrested and then released.

Lucy Letby has been arrested, charged, and now she is on trial.

And let’s be honest here, when in the past few months parents have been on trial for murdering their children, while speculation has not been appropriate, nobody has been so quick to defend them.

It is terrifying that this trial is going to take so long. But the evidence for the prosecution looks on the face of it to be extremely damning.

You don’t just decide that someone is to blame, this all happened in 2015, a lot of evidence has been gathered since then.

What matters is that children were murdered, and due process has to be followed.

I’m a paediatric nurse

my mind is blown with the stuff I’m reading and I feel sick.

You can still be competent to stand trial with serious mental illness such as schizophrenia. In that case though one would expect her plea to be diminished responsibility rather than not guilty.

Only thing I've read today is about a note found by police that appears to be a confession, but it wasn't on an awfully reputable site.

If it's true then that's the first piece of physical evidence we've seen reported, to my knowledge.

Seems only natural to draw comparisons with the Beverley Allitt case but agree it's speculation and hence unhelpful, really.

She will have been heavily assessed her, for sure. If she does have Munchausen's by Proxy, like Allitt, then she should be fit to stand trial, which we can only assume she is.

Go to the BBC news (which I view as reputable), it is mentioned there that the police searched her house and found various post it notes, some are very damning...

Would you want to be a juror on a 6 month trial, locked away from your family and friends and only allowed out with the presence of courtroom officers to the courtroom 5 days a week?

God no. But it happens in other countries for certain high profile cases.

On the charles manson case the jury were on the case for two full years. They had to live in a hotel with no tv or newspapers, they had to travel to and from court on a bus with blacked out windows so they couldnt see newspaper vendors and they could only see their family on easter and Christmas holidays in the hotel.

I know 6 months is shorter but theres always a possibility of it running over, and in the modern age its not possible to ban innocent people from family or the internet or news.

MN can you close this thread and direct people to the other one which a pp has already referred to?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4652340-lucy-letby-court-case?page=18&reply=120710130

Not delete but close, I know you can close threads before they get to 40 pages.

The parents need to know the right person is convicted and that they've not been given a fit up victim to make them go away or to cover up incompetence or neglect rather than malice or mental illness. It can also help to understand circumstances, shortcomings that made it possible or motivations beyond 'they're just evil, nothing can be done to stop it happening at another time'.

No matter how much it might anger to see a barrister standing up and arguing for the accused, it's in the interests of justice for all concerned both now and in the future that he does this - as without it, we don't have justice, we have a kangaroo court.

The prosecution is currently setting out the prosecution case. That is unlikely to be the prosecution case.