Lucy Letby Trial

[BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz]

no comments on opinion - just comments on reported info during trial

Please let's not get this thread deleted people.

Anyone following along? I'm curious as to the silence on the Sky News site where earlier and yesterday there were posts every 10/15minutes there's been nothing for hours.

I was thinking about this case today, in particular that the jury still haven't made a decision. The longer it goes on the more i feel uneasy about the decision.

i don't think they're expected to finish until October. They have to consider each individual count on its own merits and make a conclusion about each one. I'm
not surprised it's taking a long time.

One juror has left, haven’t they

Uneasy how ? It's definitely not clear cut.

The judge discharged one on Thursday. He also mentioned the others being under the 'false impression' they wouldn't be sitting next week (he said they should try to reschedule the appointments they'd made). It is possible one juror had something unavoidable next week, the others assumed they'd not be sitting, but the judge decided to discharge this juror instead to avoid yet another delay.

They have 22 charges to consider and 9 months' worth of evidence to consider. If I was the accused, I'd want them to consider very carefully. Equally, if I was a parent, I'd want them to be absolutely sure of their decision. It would be absolutely irresponsible (in my opinion) if the jury managed to come to a conclusion within 2 weeks after such a complicated trial.

God, I hate ghoulish prurience. People should be ashamed of themselves.

@Lougle absolutely agree, something would be very wrong if they came to a conclusion so quickly after such an in-depth trial.

Eh ? We are discussing a trial, wind yer neck back in.

After watching the good wife, and similar law type shows I'd never fully trust a jury.

I don't know the specifics of this case, but omg of it all,

Or they already made their mind up, irrespective of the evidence etc

"We are discussing a trial, wind yer neck back in."

Nope. You stop being tricoteuse.

How many people on here have been on a jury?

@Hawkins009 You'd like to think the jury would be unbiased 🤷‍♀️

Nope. You stop being tricoteuse.

🙄

Then If we don't want people doing "tricoteuse" then why have newspapers, why have the news, why not have a fully private trail with no news to the public

And you're being beyond fucking ridiculous.

So what happens if a juror leaves, they just continue the trial one juror down? What if another had to leave for unavoidable circumstances ie death in the family, illness etc? How many jurors could they go down to and what would happen if they didn't have enough jurors to continue? Would the trial have to restart all over again with new jurors?

Just realised I've asked you a barrage of questions assuming you'll know all the answers 😂 But I'd be interested in the answers!

What happens if a juror Cannot continue?

After removing a juror, a judge will move ahead in one of three ways: by replacing the juror, continuing the trial with a smaller jury, or declaring a mistrial.11 Apr 2023

From Google.

Might want to check the dictionary before wheeling the big words out.

@Hawkins009 that's an unfair assumption. The justice system isn't perfect by any stretch, but this jury have spent months of their lives listening to complex and distressing evidence; there's nothing to suggest they've already made their minds up, I'm sure they are more than aware of the importance of their decision.

@StressedToTheMaxxx

"If for any reason there are 9 jurors or fewer, the verdict must always be unanimous. If no decision can be reached, then the panel is considered a “hung jury.” If the crown still intends to prosecute they must start over with a new jury"

From Google

I would hope so, and I would hope that I'm incorrect,

I can’t get my head round how the system works. Have these jurors had to do this full time for 9 months? What about childcare in school holidays and family holidays? How does that all work? How many people can put their lives on hold for all that time?

I do get what you're saying and as an overall comment around jury's sometimes rolling with their preconceived notions I get it and it's accurate, just feels unfair to assume it's the case here just because we know it does happen sometimes.

@User63847484848 they have had to commit for these months but not every day, there have been planned 'breaks' and unplanned due to juror absence. They will get paid and the majority of jobs expect people on jury service to be back at work when not in court, although obviously no idea if any of these have had to in this case. When you're summoned if its a long case you do get asked if it would cause hardship or not be workable, but yes still must be taking a toll.

I understand and agree with your analysis, I must admit I'm more of a cynic at times.