James Bulger's mother demands right to find freed killers

[suzywong]

as reported in the \link{http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news1.shtml\news of the world.

Should she have the right?

Discuss

I was just making the point tammy - in response to Gobble that there is by no means some kind of 'moral majority' on this site. And there are plenty of people who hold very strong views on lots of different topics.
I imagine your original name made people think you might have been a troll.

Hello singlemom, she was paying for some chops in the butchers and was looking to give the correct change, or something like that. She was with her sil and obviously thought she was watching (i presume) when she looked up after a few seconds he was gone and the rest we all know.
I read that in the book 'Every parents nightmare' A very graphis and sad book. after reading this thats when i got angry with the whole thing.

nasa - OK, it's just my view. I've only posted since August so perhaps it's just the ones I've been on.

I know a couple of posters in RL who feel the same though.

Troll, that makes me laugh everytime. i can understand what they were saying but i found it all very frusrating.

I have just always wondered why no one ever said anything.
I don't believe her seeing these boys will alleviate any of her pain it has to come from inside herself.I also believe that these boys may not have meant to kill as I know my 10 yr old could never do something like that.
No on here knows what kinds of psychological probs these boys had or have and ob something has been done to help them.
My uncle commited and continues to commit a crime worse than murder and gets lighter sentences than a thief.I would love to place a knife in him but have had to realise that this in the long term will not help either his victims or my own mental health.Sometimes we have to find a way to move on.

Well if you know a couple of posters who all feel the same then surely that view is in the majority and you lot dominate the opinion gdg.

Singlemum i do agree with that, but i just cant stand the thought of what these monsters did. They attempted to take a child earlier the same day, but were thworted when his mother interveened.
I not sure about not meaning to kill him, i think they did. Its wriiten in the book i read that they took him to the canal, and tried to get him to look at his reflection so they could push him in, but James wouldnt. So i have a strong feeling that they had every intention of getting 'rid' of the little boy.

If I am with someone I always make sure that one of us has hold of 4 yr old and eye on 10 yr old.
Maybe my past makes me more carefull but my parents were always the same.

This is an ancient chestnut. This forum is all about discussion and there are varying viewpoints on anything and everything. There is no conspiracy or moral majority.

My point is that there must have been a reason in their minds.I believe that their parents had a lot to do with this reason.

Sorry your names singing mom not single, apologies. xx

Again singing, i disagree, in some cases maybe, but this one im not so sure.

Singsingmum, I did mention this point on Sun, but that's about a million posts ago!

In short, I said that she must feel guilty as hell that James was out of her sight for that fatal moment. She has no rational cause to feel such guilt, of course. It's made me paranoid about watching 2yr old DS like a hawk when we're out. When I see a small child but can't see an obvious parent, I wonder what on earth they're thinking. We shouldn't have to live as if every passerby could be a childkiller, but...

I tell DS that he must stay close because although most people are nice, there are a very few people who aren't. Don't want to raise him with a fear of people but don't want him to be too naive either. It's a hard one.

I still think it is a mixture of Nature and Nuture and you will never find the exact formula. I'm not agreeing with people i like now but sod it, here goes. A baby can be born with certain characteristics in its genetic make up, studies with twins seperated at birth shows this. Children who are adopted and find they are following patterns off there birth parents show it. It is not always society and upbringing. Sometimes it is, sometimes there happens to be nothing that has outwardly effected the child. It is far to easy to blame parents because that protects people from the heinous thought that they're children could turn out as monsters. Also rational choice has to come into play, blame cannot always be found, a person has free will no matter what has happened to them.

ff - I just said it was my view and fwiw, I know 2 people that have been on MN who have happened to think the same.

I didn't say, 'therefore' I am right'. It's my own observation - that's how I see it, is that OK with you?

Yes thats fine with me, thankyou for asking

You're welcome.

gdg

No, really, your welcome

ive just been to Tescos (quite a large one) and listened to a mum yelling "Max" for about 10 mins

Shouldn't that be 'you're'?

ffs gdg

it's a draw!