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Adopted brother and sister get marriage annulled

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NAB3wishesfor2008 · 11/01/2008 13:11

This is so sad. A couple met and married and have discovered they are actually twins who were adopted as babies. They never knew they were adopted or that they had a twin.

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nametaken · 11/01/2008 18:59

but would their mothers know that they had adopted one twin?

Yes the mothers would have known that they adopted one twin because (and I know this because I have twins) when you have a multiple birth, the time of birth is always shown on the birth certificate - with a single baby it isn't.

shoshe · 11/01/2008 19:03

Not in scotland I can assure you I was a Single birth (unlike my brothers who were twins) and I have the time on my birth cert.

cushioncover · 11/01/2008 19:03

Re the changing of the date of birth thing. When I was 17 I had a Saturday job in one of those indoor market clothes shop thingies.
The woman who owned the 'stall' had been born during the war. She was an only child and her mother had recently passed away. Whilst going through her things she noticed things that didn't add up (can't remember what exactly)

Anyway, to cut a long story short, it turned out that she was 1 year older than she had always thought. Her aunt had worked in the records office during the war and 'adjusted' the records to make it possible that her dad was her father as he had been away the previous year when her mother fell pg.

So the poor woman had to cope with the enormity of not only not being her father's daughter but actually being 1yr older than she had always thought!

As a teenager, I didn't ever understand the shock she must have felt.

nametaken · 11/01/2008 19:18

Oh sorry Shoshe I had no idea that in Scotland they put the time of birth for singletons - unless your a twin and don't know it

Kimi · 11/01/2008 19:23

Poor people,

nametaken · 11/01/2008 19:26

Yes I just looked and in Scotland, they DO put the time of birth for singletons, although why they do this I have no idea.

Well knock me down with a feather, I never knew that.

Sorry

NAB3wishesfor2008 · 11/01/2008 19:29

I think the adoptive parents didn't know they had adopted a twin.

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TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 11/01/2008 19:30

Another thing about birth certificates, I doubt if birth certificate protocol was always scrupulously followed. Especially as origins of birth were often deliberately obscured.

So when Ethel the maid stated the father as being Lord Shagnasty, it would have been completed as 'father unknown'.

cushioncover · 11/01/2008 19:54

Quite. See my previous post and that was only 60yrs ago.

chipmonkey · 11/01/2008 20:24

Thatcouldvebeenme, apparently it is quite common for adoptees to feel attraction to their natural siblings, you're not alone in that.

morningpaper · 11/01/2008 20:26

We have NO EVIDENCE that this story is true.

A slightly bonkers peer reported in the house of lords that he had spoken to someone who had heard about it....

it's total URAN MYTH

put money on it

NAB3wishesfor2008 · 11/01/2008 20:44
Hmm
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CarGirl · 11/01/2008 20:45

Babies who are adopted get new birth certificates which names their adoptive parents as being their birth parents IYSWIM so I doubt they would have transferred the time of birth over plus the adoptive parents would not have seen the original birth certificate.

TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 11/01/2008 20:55

cargirl - that's correct. Although I had two birth certificates, one that just had my adoptive parents name & address, date & place of birth and another certificate that was about 2ft long which also had date of adoption and details of adoption agency & an officials signature. It didn't have any birth parent details on it.

Will now google whether 'annulled in the House of Lords' and 'bonkers peer' is one and the same.

ilovewashingnappies · 11/01/2008 21:04

its like an opera or something! Poor sods

morningpaper · 11/01/2008 21:06

yes google it

made up

don't believe it

TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 11/01/2008 21:06

Summary of my Googling - Lord Alton reported in the Lords that a High Court Judge had annulled a marriage between twins. No further details were given, not even the name of the judge. The story was part of his argument against reforms currently being debated that may threaten the right of children to know their biological parents re: Human Embryology & Tissues Bill.

I won't post a link after my earlier catastrophe.

SlartyBartFast · 11/01/2008 21:07

how did the couple find out?
did they both decide to trace their parents i wonder.
did they have children and then have genetic testing ?

weirdshit · 11/01/2008 21:12

This was discussed here a while ago. A poster said she had slept with her half brother.

Alot of people didn't believe her

I am adopted and met my full brother some time ago.

I fancied him, plain and simple. But all of the things I don't like about myself were things I don't like about him and the feeling did fade.

I think my DH fancies my sister- but that is not so strange.

All very sad and a big mess, I don't believe any of you can say whether or not people should have known etc- you know nothing about it really.

madamez · 11/01/2008 21:13

Poor people. I could almost hope that, if they really feel romantic love for one another (and have no hereditary genetic issues) they have the strength to move away and pretend it wasn't them, but reallistically no one could sustain that sort of thing forever: sooner or later one would crack.

Psychobabble · 11/01/2008 21:21

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Ubergeekian · 11/01/2008 21:35

Annulment seems a bit drastic, when they could just have moved to Norfolk.

3andnomore · 12/01/2008 20:59

I don't know if this report is true or untrue...and it doesn't really matter, as things like that could well be happening...and will be possibly even more likely with more people using sperm donors/donated eggs, etc...and then there is the whole issue of all these halfsiblings....

I have severeal halfsiblings, I know my halfsister with whom I share my mum, because we grew up together, but I don't know any from my fathers side, and there were possibly even more then we know of....might aswell that I married a Brit...doubt we are related bloodwise, lol...

SlartyBartFast · 12/01/2008 21:02

front page of The Sun, and they are asking if You are Them or Know them ? to call in the strictest confidence

have a good mind to call and give themwhat for

Magdelanian · 12/01/2008 21:14

So is this story true or untrue? I once met a guy who was born on the same day as me and same year and yes, we had a relationship. I was not adopted and he was ethnic origin so I didnt question it . If its made up then that's wierd. Also add that I think my half brother is good-looking in a sibling way!