Ww3 severe anxiety

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I don’t know if anyone can help me, or I’m beyond help, in the last 24 hours this nuclear strike Russia and threatening the U.K. with if we supply more arms to Ukraine and at the same time liz truss states we will double down on more and harder weapons to Ukraine and Boris then chimes in any retaliation we will equally hit with our own, I am current sat on my bathroom floor crying because I can’t cope with the thought of nuclear war and what that means for me and my children, I don’t know what to do, how to cope if anyone could please help

just think how many similar worrying situations we've had over the last 100 years or so. It's not worth worrying about it, unless it happens. Waste of energy.

I think only being 30 I have never ever been so terrified or felt anything of a similar threat to this at all although, maybe o was off being a kid enjoying life oblivious to it!
I think if I wasn’t a mum I would be scared yeah, but accept it would just be me and it was what it was, but having 2 beautiful kids, I almost look at that and want to apologise for bringing them into a world so cruel and now they may have to suffer because of it.

In the very simplest terms, Britain (and the rest of NATO, including the US) have *absolutely loads of nukes and efficient delivery systems. Putin knows it and more importantly, so does everyone around him.
*technical term 😊

Sorry, no idea why that bolded!

I know this, but apparently we are the us immediate deterrent because our trident sub can deliver a swift and quick response if either are hit, but I wondered what considerable damage our missiles on board would cause to Moscow or Russia depending where you could hit because it comes from sea, not clued up on my geography! 🤦🏻‍♀️

If he fires a nuke at the uk, the world will fire hundreds back at him, Russia will be wiped off the map. He is signing his own death warrant and that of his families if he does this, don't forget there are also many more people that have to authorize a nuclear strike, it's not just Putin and a red button, I truly believe the majority of them will not be willing to die or kill their own families for the sake of this madman.
He maybe crazy but the long list of others that have to sign off on it aren't.

I'm a very rational person and in my 60's about to retire. There is a very common expression on Mumsnet that when someone shows you who they are your should pay attention. Putin clearly cares nothing about human life and is quite happy to attack civilian targets. He has shown total disregard for national and international law in relation to Ukraine and - we should have taken more notice - in relation to the Salisbury incident. He might be posturing, he might not, he is clearly deranged. I think everyone should consider their own circumstances but I'm going to ask m DH to consider moving to a safer place abroad, which has a government which doesn't think it is a good idea to wind him up with jingoistic rhetoric.

Also if he wants to attack the uk, it will be more strategic, he has to try and damage our nukes, so army bases, ports etc...so the chance of London being the first target is in my opinion non existent.

tbh I did consider this, but don’t have a passport I don’t think I could get one quick enough, however I’m getting the feeling that regardless where
you are in the world WWW3 kicks off, to many nuclear bombs would have been fired and pretty
mucy anywhere will be swarming with radiation and the fallout from that many in such a small timeframe as I understand it

Maybe a good thing then I live next door to somewhere that makes stuff so maybe I won’t know anything about it 😬

ffs stop watching the news, stop googling, stop discussing it on social media. You say you are not mentally strong enough for this atm so until you get help with your anxiety just STOP.

It's unlikely any nuclear conflict would begin with an immediate all-out attack, and no, the UK alone does not have the capacity to destroy Russia completely. Damage most of the European Russian major cities, yes, but the UK could not single-handedly obliterate Russia because at any given point in time our entire deployable deterrent consists of one singular ballistic missile submarine sitting somewhere in the North Atlantic.

The UK is, however, a NATO member, and NATO regards any attack on any member as an attack on the entire organisation, so if we did get into a scenario whereby Russia launches an all-out bombardment of the UK, the US would also be obliged to respond, and that would inevitably lead to the total devastation of the Russian State. Any nuclear attack on the UK invariably leads to an overwhelming retaliatory response against the perpetrator, so Putin does have to accept that it inevitably means the total destruction of his own nation if he wants to go down that route.

Now OP, please contact your GP as a matter of urgency, because you are clearing not coping with this at all. If you can not see a doctor, then present yourself at A&E and they will triage you.

I think the likelihood of a nuclear attack is small, but not zero. I find it quite odd that we had lockdowns and daily broadcasts from No 10 at one point over a virus that the vast majority of people survived, even in their 90's. A madman with apparent 'roid rage and in legacy mode? Meh, not even gonna reprint "Protect and Survive" or test our early warning system.

Protect and Survive is hugely outdated and we don't have an early warning system. Also, the intention of lockdown was basically to save lives (much debate to be had about the need/effectiveness of this but still). The aim of nuclear civil defence isn't to save lives; the shelters described in P&S are completely useless for large amounts of the population in a full-scale nuclear war and at best only slightly mitigate the effects of radiation/fallout for anyone in affected areas. The advice is intended to stop people roaming the streets demanding food or medical care in the two weeks immediately after a nuclear war.

As no full-scale nuclear war is likely there's just no need for any sort of public information. People saying P&S was put through their letterbox are misremembering as it wasn't even printed in bulk although it was available to buy. And the adverts were never broadcast on TV or radio. The reason for this is that a) they were never needed or came near to being needed and b) they would have caused huge panic.

But even though covid in itself is not particularly deadly for a single individual, it is dangerous across a population, and the mitigations are both easy to deploy and simple to understand. OK lockdown was pretty hardcore and probably massively overblown but in itself it is an elegant and quickly established solution to the problem at hand.

There is no comparable "solution" to the problem of potential nuclear war that can be brought into play so swiftly, or without spending vast amounts of money for very little return. A siren system does basically nothing - the few minutes' warning we would get are useless anyway without shelters. Domestic shelters are expensive and also ineffective.

I don't know why people are trying to reason with the OP. This isn't a rationale response, you can't logic people out of anxiety.

OP - get help for your anxiety. Yes, nuclear war would be bad. But no amount of sitting at home crying and fussing about how nice your children are is going to avert it.

Wow! At what part is this not rational to what
going to happen?

I am prone to anxiety too .I do understand your fear .I cope by just watching the Headlines .Then watch TV on the other Channel ,Mums net ,out with the dog and so on .Boris and his Government will be clued up, and will have a strategy in place .I feel Putin is wildly gesticulating at present .According to the Telegraph there are 3 people who have to approve it ,and use different codes to launch it.He doesnt walk about with a button! When I was a child in the 70s, My DM had to commute to London each day terrified that the IRA would bomb the Tube. We worried about going to US when the Iraq war was raging.There is always something to worry about! Please see if your GP may help you or seek Counselling to manage your thoughts . Maybe when you can it may be better to see if you can return to work maybe PT at first just to give you something else to focus on .Take Care, love and try not to worry (not easy I know!)

Easier said than done, but I tell myself "Don't worry about things that have not happened yet".

Because you don't know it's going to happen!
Everyone has given you loads of advice, loads of rational facts. Putin can't just press the button because he fancies it, he has to go through a lot of hoops. He's been threatening this since the very start. If he fired at us, Russia would be obliterated with the retaliation.

Sitting crying on the bathroom floor isn't rational op. You need to seek help.

Not being able to cope with day-to-day life because of hypotheticals isn't rational.

I'm not going to be drawn into discussion on it. I have family with anxiety, we could go in circles for hours. Like I say, seek help so that you are able to live alongside the knowledge that catastrophic things may happen.

Take care.

To those posters saying this is the closest to nuclear war we’ve ever been, that simply is not true. There have been periods in history, including the CMC, when weapons were physically armed and ready to launch and indeed orders made to launch them (the fact they were never launched is more a lucky accident).

The US govt has repeatedly said it sees nothing on the ground to suggest it needs to change its current nuclear readiness level. On top of that key figures, including those who will have access to substantially more intel than us, have said consistently they consider the risk of nuclear war to be negligible.

Yes things are tense but we are not at imminent risk of nuclear annihilation. I’ve said before, and will do again, look at where key players are. They are not cowering in nuclear bunkers, they are going about their daily business. Indeed they are visiting Kyiv itself and reestablishing diplomatic missions there etc. These are not the actions of World leaders who think their lives are at imminent risk.

Russia has 1 thing in its arsenal that genuinely scare the shit out of people. Things are going badly and they’re stamping their feet and waggling their big stick in the air but, at present, no more.

Stop it
stop watching and reading the news
stop social media
honestly go and watch strictly or some crap film with Bruce Willis who saves the day and kills the bad guy 😂

if it happens you won’t know fuck all about it
and if it doesn’t well you are screwing up your life atm with this over the top anxiety and although you think your kids won’t understand they will pick up on your stress factors
go and see your doctor and get some help with this
it’s really not normal or a healthy way to live
you are more likely to be walking along the rd worrying about this nuclear war and radiation not look where you are going and get killed by a bus or car .

I 100% agree with this post.

At times like this is do not follow the news. It gets turned off it comes on the TV and I dont seek out reading any news. Not even local news.

Tbh there are people paid to worry about this. People who have some influence on this. Us 'normal' have no control in the situation so honestly I dont need know what I can not control. I was terrified of nuclear war as a child. I was scared in January 2020. The law of probability is that nothing will happen re nukes ww3 etc.

I only dip and out of news if my MH can handle it and that has been true for over 7 years. Thetes always something in the news to I dictate imanant death of al you hold dear. Yet here we all still are