Would you object to an amplified Muslim Call to Prayer?

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Story here - would you mind? Do you mind church bells ringing? What are your reasons?

Don't know what I think - would be interested to hear your thoughts!

It also talks about the monarch being required to swear to maintain the Protestant Religion in the UK, and heirs to the throne are not allowed to marry anyone who is not Protestant

Diana was the last blone haired, blue eyed, prody virgin left in the UK, it was doomed to fail.

It also talks about the monarch being required to swear to maintain the Protestant Religion in the UK, and heirs to the throne are not allowed to marry anyone who is not Protestant

Diana was the last blone haired, blue eyed, prody virgin left in the UK, it was doomed to fail.

i probably wouldn't even notice it, especially in a city.

there's so much noise in cities as it is.

Well, officially England is a Christian (Anglican) country. The heir to the throne isn't allowed ot marry a Catholic, let alone a muslim, hindu, sikh, buddhist, pagan, jew or professed atheist. And while Ian Duncan Smith made neither a secret nor a big deal out of being a catholic, Blair waited till he was out of office to convert.
But to me (and a lot of people) noise is noise. Whether motivated by superstition, commerce or practicality. (ie, religious institutions, factories, minicabs, livestock, the railway line or the dustcart depot.)If you are choosing somewhere to live, find out about the noise, if you are particularly sensitive to noise. If a source of(reasonable) noise turns up where you live and earplugs don't help, try to move. It's a lot easier to get used to a regular noise than a random one, anyway.

If a source of(reasonable) noise turns up where you live and earplugs don't help, try to move. It's a lot easier to get used to a regular noise than a random one, anyway.

I agree -

Pull your kids out of school, they will make new friends and with any luck their education won't suffer too much, incur the cost of an estate agent, stamp duty, moving firm, why the hell not!

If someone wanted to build a block of flats at the end of your garden, or put up a phone mast, you might try to fight it first, before moving.

Phatmouse: I said reasonable noise. There is a level of noise beyond which one is not allowed to go in a residential area, and from what other posters have said, mosques make efforts not to breach the legal limits (and allow alarms in the home etc anyway).
Now aeroplane noise, and the expansions of Heathrow and other airports, are a rather more pressing problem than the noise a muezzin makes ie people who have lived in their homes for decades and are now going to have to put up with planes roaring overhead etc...

Agree CharlieandLola'sMummy.

Also, the 'news story' (and no disrespect to the OP who mentioned it) is really one crap-peddler whining about the activities of another crap-peddler peddling a different brand of crap, really.

i dont think that becuase planes are louder is a good argument.

i would object on the gounds of noise pollution

I dont mind.

I wouldn mind my local Church's Mass being amplified out across the neighbour hood either, it would save me going to Church if I could listen from my garden, or while doing dishes.

I'd object to Michael Nazir-Ali being amplified anywhere near me, that's for sure . What an annoying bish he is . If we lived just down the road he'd be ours, ugh . He just loves to stir it up.
I'd not be bothered about an amplified call to prayer per se but I do think urban life already suffers badly from noise pollution so I can't say I'd be that keen. I'd be the first to object if our church installed a recorded peal or a carillon chime

Custy: so surely the answer is to set a maximum limit for noise (applicable to everyone) not fuss about whether the noise is crap-peddlers, people singing along to their home karaoke machines, or the recycling plant grinding up empty bottles.

i thought we had that?

No, not unless it was ridiculously early in the morning

I would object.
But then some people object to church bells (successfully too). Myself, I rather like the sound of church bell ringing. But my grandmother lives next to a church and my goodness the practice sessions on a wednesday afternoon do go on. Saying that, the church has been there for 400 years, as has my grandmother's house, so rather late in the day to start complaining now.
But the reason I'd object to the call to prayer is that it is a new noise, introduced where none existed before, and many times a day.

i would object

If the Muslim call to prayer ever woke me up at dawn, or disturbed my equilibrium at any time of day, I would play 'Whole Lot of Rosie' at maximum decibels.

By way of reply, of course

I actually quite like waking up to it. It reminds me of fantastic holidays in nice places.... It allows me to dream....

Nazir-Ali is a scaremongering idiot, but yes, I bloody well would object. Church bells ring once a week and I wasn't thrilled about them when I lived next door to a church.

The last thing cities need is more noise pollution.

I can't see why the call to prayer couldn't be broadcast on the radio, so if you wanted to hear it you could tune in.

Interesting posts.
I'm very surprised to see people not objecting.

As many said, noise is noise and there is enough as it is.

But also, I'm surprised that it seems OK for the religious sphere to intrude constantly on everyday life.
Which religion is irrelevant. That they have to scream out loud/ring bells in your ear to make you come to prayer is a bit disturbing to me in this day and age.

As Ninedragons said, if you wanna hear the call, tune in. I don't see why it should be shoved down our ears.

I'm baffled when people raise objections to church bells after moving close to a church. What do they fffing expect? Of all the things to describe church bells as, 'noise pollution' is not on my list. Car alarms, drunks and parties, maybe! I personally love them & find them moving in the way Saadia says she finds the call to prayer. Childminder lives right next to a Mosque in east London and in 4 years I've only once heard the call to prayer, amplified or otherwise, nor have I ever heard anyone complain about it. I have no idea if they amplify it regularly. I don't think it would bother me greatly, as I don't find it an unpleasant sound. I was a bit startled when I heard it though.

I would object because as I understand it the first one is at dawn / 5am everyday, whereas church bells never seem to get going at that hour!

Otherwise - well, in the context of everything else, like super-amplified car sound systems that make my windows rattle (Is THAT part of UK culture??), barking dogs, uneccesarily revved engines, helicopters circling round looking at traffic jams, a call to prayer (except at 5am) doesn't seem to be an imposition on anyone else.

Not sure why it is nbecesary though - presumably started in countries where people do not have alarm clocks etc, surely now the call to prayer could be texted to the faithful??

DP's family live in a country where the call to prayer (can't remember it's proper name) happens every morning - and the christian churches, mosques and hindu festivals all seem to make sure they keep up with each other in the public disruption stakes - and if competitiveness and 'tit for tat' and territorial angst is at the heart of suporting or objecting to the call to parayer, then perhaps the callitself is not the most important aspect of the discussion.

o be honest I wouldn't object. They are right to feel that their call to prayer should be no diffrent than church bells. I think the time is irrelevant. Church bells after all probably annoy those who enjoy a late snooze on Sunday mornings. If you want to stop one, you would really have to stop both.

Depends on how loud it was. I like listening to church bells, maybe I'd get to like the call to prayer too.