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re last nights thread on 7yr olds tragic death

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 12:24

I'd rather not get into another debate on the new thread so have started this one.

So you can now see the emails that have passed between Carrie and I can you?? and our discussion of it?

I asked for my posts to be removed late last night, as I had (as per usual) expressed myself completely incompetently and p*ssed everyone else off with my opinions on the parent bashing that was occuring on that thread.

Carrie removed the personal attacks I had made to others (but left the ones made to me) and said it was up to me if I wanted the other posts deleted or not as (apparently) I made some valid points - think she was just trying to be nice there as no-one else could obviously see any of them.. I said I would rather they all went because of the way the thread had turned out. But this morning she said that she'd leave them as that particular thread appeared to have dropped out of Active Convo's and could be left to die it's natural death.

Added to the fact that I got up several times in the night, and found on another thread deliberate taking the p*ss out of me - and making wild accusations about the topic I "always" post on doesn't exactly fill me with seasonal good cheer.

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JingleBelgoHoHoHo · 28/12/2007 12:30

I think it's still in active convos.

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 12:32

it is........someone started the new thread, then someone else posted on the old one and it got bumped, I posted requesting that the new thread be used because of the way I made the thread turn last night and I was questioned on my motives on the new thread (much as I was when I reported my own posts last night....)

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JingleBelgoHoHoHo · 28/12/2007 12:34

This is why I stay out of threads like that QoQ. It's so easy for misinterpretations to occur.

If I were you, I would try and forget about it. Because everyone else will forget about it well before you do.

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 12:38

I know you're right about forgetting about it, but I don't think others are really going to forget before I do..... - actually I think I'm more upset about being told that I "always" post on the same topic and bring up the same subject....even though (having done an extensive search at some ungodly hour early this morning) threads where I mention this "always" mentioned topic are a tiny % of my threads.....

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inthegutter · 28/12/2007 12:51

Surely the lesson to be learned here is that whenever anyone chooses to post on a public forum like this, they need to think first. If you write something offensive, or which will later embarrass you or whatever, then it's there in print. I find a small minority of the things I read on MN absolutely unbelievably offensive and thoughtless, and i think it's inexcusable.

JingleBelgoHoHoHo · 28/12/2007 12:52

the thing is though, people don't remember all of your posts, just one or two posts will stick in their minds, giving a skewed view of what you post.

Try not to care so much about it, it's certainly not worth doing a search at an ungodly hour

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 12:55

I'm not going to apologise for my views on the parent bashing as I stand by that.....and reading the more recent thread it would appear there are others who seem to have the same train of thought as me -

I do however apologise for the personal attacks I made on people.

Doesn't matter how long and hard I "think" about what I'm writing, if I can't express myself very well in written (typed) English there's not a lot I can do about that apart from stop posting, which I don't intend to do. Apart from the personal attacks which were brash and not thought through I thought through everything else I posted. I'm terribly sorry I would never have stood a chance at passing A level English, and only just scraped through my Scottish Higher and Standard grade in the subject......

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 12:57

Jingle with comments such as

"you were told off by other MNetters to stop making the threads about you & Zim. You have to stop. People are noticing it. It's your main topic of conversation"

It hardly makes me want to bother posting on the 99% of threads I normally post on which are nothing to do with it........as they're obviously a waste of my time !

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JingleBelgoHoHoHo · 28/12/2007 12:59

I'm sure I post about Belgium far more - it's only natural to want to talk about the country that you live in.

FWIW, I'm always interested in hearing about other countries.

inthegutter · 28/12/2007 13:00

Personally I don't think it's got anything to do with A level English!! You don't need to have formal qualifications to be able to post on a public forum. I think a sense of healthy respect for others' views and a dose of common sense are far more important. The bottom line is, if you feel strongly enough about an issue to choose to write a post about it, you surely can take the time to think about what you want to say before committing it to print?

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 13:01

you see I've never seen you talk about Belgium before ....but evidently people are just looking out for anywhere that I "dare" to mention "that" country to point out how "often" I post about it.....rather than noticing that the vast majority of my posts and threads have no reference to it at all

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SantaBabyBeenAnAwfulGoodGirl · 28/12/2007 13:02

qoq

out of the huge number of people on mn there are some who are instantly identifiable yuou are one...it's a choice u r either anonymous or opeople recognise you and u r a character on mn

which would u rather?

i'm sure i post loads that people would rather i didn't in fact i know that's the case cos they tell me

it's a big deal to u but not so much to other people

don't worry about it babe

dividedselfridgesxmaswindow · 28/12/2007 13:02

Not going to seek out the thread - I missed it all and am not really here because I haven't time to do my long thank you post for my MN xmas surprises, BUT...I have strong views on the paedophilia threads and mental health threads and have been accused in the past of looking for an argument as a result.

I don't. However, when one feels strongly about a topic it is very hard to sit back and read some of the misinformed tripe that is posted without getting het up. It doesn't mean that is all you post about - it just sticks in people's minds as someone else pointed out here.

You know your motivations QoQ - that's what matters.

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 13:02

inthegutter you still don't get it......I know what I want to say, I think it through, I delete bits, and re-write them, preview and read it through.......but when I post it just doesn't seem to make sense to anyone else...

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SantaBabyBeenAnAwfulGoodGirl · 28/12/2007 13:05

lol thats mumsnet qoq u shud kno by now

people are always misinterpreting what i say and i have an english degree and a pgce i am a qualified english teacher

i still write balls and get told off for it

i also write perfectly well reasoned stuff and it gets mangled

u know that

dividedselfridgesxmaswindow · 28/12/2007 13:06

I don't recall you lacking skills in eloquence???

Isn't it partly to do with holding a minority view?

JingleBelgoHoHoHo · 28/12/2007 13:07

I think most people type things sometimes without really thinking them through.

And some people will always misinterpret things, however clearly it's written, because it suits them to misinterpret it.

hatrick · 28/12/2007 13:07

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 13:08

haha! "eloquence" - I don't think I could ever describe my fumbled attempts at expressing myself as eloquent, and certainly no-one else ever has!

Have to admit to chuckling yesterday when someone said that they sometimes get me and Expat mixed up WTF?? Expat makes much more sense than me!

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inthegutter · 28/12/2007 13:08

Please don't tell me 'I don't get it'. I happen to believe that qualifications in English aren't relevant to whether or not you choose to post on a public forum. If you feel that other people are 'misreading' what you write, then that's your opinion. But I think my post was perfectly clear and reasonable - if you approach a public forum with respect for others and some common sense then it's less likely that you're going to cause offence. Quite simple. That's not directed at you QoQ, it applies to everyone. Nothing to 'not get' about it.

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 13:10

hatrick - I don't know who did and who didn't make personal attacks towards me now, and have no desire to go back and look. I asked for the ones I made to be removed because I looked very soon after writing them and realised I'd overstepped the mark. Everyone has different ideas of what constitutes a personal attack so I wasn't going to start rocking the boat even more asking for what "I" considered to be personal attacks to be removed!

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dividedselfridgesxmaswindow · 28/12/2007 13:11

You weren't getting it when you said that people should take the time to think before posing. Point being QoQ does. Maybe too much.

Hey, QoQ! Maybe that's it - like an overworked oil paining - you think too much

minorityrules · 28/12/2007 13:11

I have a genuine question

Why is ok to berate and judge some parents and not others? All the discussion about MM was quashed and people were told you musn't judge, why is this different, I really am confused

dividedselfridgesxmaswindow · 28/12/2007 13:11

't' key still has mince pie crumbs under

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TheIceQueen · 28/12/2007 13:12

and what does "common sense" mean - that I should pretend to tow the line with the majority view on things, and express myself badly "agreeing" with what people say, rather than expressing myself badly while disagreeing?

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