7-yr-old killed riding quad bike ON UNLIT ROAD AFTER DARK!!!

[WendyWeber]

What were they thinking of???

oh but VVV - haven't you read the first few posts - hardly anyone seemed to give 2 shits about the poor little girl - it was all about how stupid the parents were from the very first post.......

but she shouldn't have been on a road on a quad bike - any road, day or night, lit or unlit, with or without headlights.

The parents' decision is completely indefensible.

And it still is - she would be alive now if they hadn't made that choice.

Saying "oh poor little girl" helps nobody.

You shouldn't call everyone tossers because you don't agree with them though. Last post on this one.

am I the only one that can see that this thread was started not to say how terrible the loss of this little girl is - but to criticise the parents????? The OP alone was purely about the parents decision not the loss of a young child's life!

Yes, correct, that is why I started it!

I dont think it's wrong to express sentiments WW. Of course they wont turn back time. But it's still okay.

And actually the first few posts after the OP (and most) have expressed sorrow at what happened. Surely expressing sorrow does not remove the ability to simultaneously question why on earth a seven year old child was allowed to ride a quadbike on a public road on her own.

I think everyone who has posted here feels that the loss of this child's life is tragic and awful. Of course they do. I feel though that the debate is about how she came to lose her life and that revolves around the parents' decision to allow her on a powerful motor vehicle on a public road in the dark.

When did QOQ start saying "oh how terrible, poor little girl" btw?

There's a lot of "I did this and my boys survived" but no "poor little girl" until very late on...

Oh I'm not fussed about what QOQ said or didnt say. I just want to express my sentiments.

Yes, VVVQV, you did post to say that, and that's fine, but QOQ at 2205 posted

"am I the only one that can see that this thread was started not to say how terrible the loss of this little girl is - but to criticise the parents????? The OP alone was purely about the parents decision not the loss of a young child's life!"

which I believe was the first time (without trawling through the entire thread) that she'd said anything of the kind.

Breath-taking hypocrisy.

And now I'm off too - regretting the tragic loss of this little girl but still blaming her parents.

actually I'm not calling everyone who I disagree with on this one a tosser. There are a few posters on this thread with whom I disagree but have perfect respect for - because of the way that they have accepted that we have differing views on some parts of this debates (exactly the same views on others) but have not taken it upon themselves to read any of my post properly.

I'm not going to deny that I don't mind a debate. However, I can quite honestly say that I have debated on many topics on MN and quite often changed my views - and admitted to changing my views (and could probably dig them up in the archives if I wanted to). But I sense that some of those that a) come onto the thread purely to have a go at me, or b) just want to call me argumentative would never, ever admit to changing their views on something - that would just be to awful to contemplate for them, or even to admit to agreeing with anything that a poster they disagree with says.

Yes I'm accused of "always wanting an argument" - fine if that's what you think why not just ignore my posts, or report them and get them deleted if all my posts are purely "trollish" to create arguments???

Yes this thread has (sadly) turned into a big argument, and yes based around "me" (I guess that's because I'm so fucking selfish it's always about me me me.....) but I stand by the fact that I DON'T like the fact that this thread was blatantly started to criticise the parents, and not to discuss the terrible loss of a 7yr girls life.

yes I didn't say it until later - because I was incensed by the fact that the OP deliberately set out to criticise the parents - have reported all my posts on this thread to MN and asked for them to be deleted up until this one.

But, TheIceQueen, what IS there to say about the terrible loss of a 7 year olds life apart from, yes, it's tragic? Personally I find threads which just seem to be there for people who don't know the bereaved family to 'sympathise', and say 'how terrible' and do lots of faces fairly offensive. They dont achieve anything, and at worst I believe they can allow people to feel in some way that they are 'sharing' the family's grief. I assumed that the whole point of the OP starting the thread was not to criticise or have a go at the parents concerned, but to debate on MN the PREVENTABLE death of a child. Because that's the reality here. The parents chose to behave illegally in a way that has had terrible lifelong repurcussions. And saying that does NOT mean that I'm a perfect parent. I'm simply stating the truth.