So do you think there are really people with children who have weekends in the country and then have lines of coke when the kids are in bed?

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Because according to the Sunday Times there are.

They must be on a different planet to me though.

IME people aren't really sensible when they're using coke.

Well the locked cupboard could keep kids away from all sorts of nasties - doesn't make it right though.

Defintely not expat. How can taking something that makes you act like such a turd be sensible?

so people who occasionally dabble in the odd line of coke can't be sensible

tbh i know many people who would be affected my a few glasses of wine than a line of coke.

Because using Class A drugs that have enslaved tens of thousands of people, including many children, and cost the lives of tens of thousands of others, isn't every sensible.

'occassionally dabbling in coke', would seem to be a social thing (though IME coke is the most unsociable drug ever, what is sociable about spending the night in the loo with a note up your nose?) not the sort of thing you are likely to be doing sat at home really.
Or as a parent, in care of children, asleep upstairs.

Anyone who goes through the phase of doing coke eventually comes out the other side realising it's a twattish pastime. Anyone who still thinks it's great will fail to see the twattishness of it.....but they will eventually.

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Having it, using it, whatever is illegal no matter if you buy it or share it out, though.

I'm sure there are loads of people who do this but I don't envy them one little bit. I love drinking wine, eating nice food and socialising but I have no interest in living on the edge. Most of these people only do it because they think it makes them interesting (yawn).

Don't get the coke thing tbh it fucks your brain up

Heroin smoked is safer in the long run if you are into occasional drug use

Knobby to use either - same as smackheads tbh, but at least smackheads acknowlegde their stupidness as a rule, coke users are v.in denial ime

but people do have social events at their house so if said people also socially did coke then it would be likely they would do it whilst sat at home and therefore would probably not be spending their night in the loo.

obviously if doing it when out that's different, but then once i've had a few glasses of wine i spend most of my night peeing in the toiley anyway, so is that also unsociable. i have learnt to keep the seal unbroken for as long as possible

I've got no judgement on recreational drinking and drug use, I did both - as a student etc, but SURELY its a lifestyle phase you grow out of....
parenthood and these things just don't mix, I think these people are attempting to convinve themseles and others how with it they are, and how middle aged suburbandom hasn't changed their rock n roll personalities
like oo said, its so over (yawn) sorry thinj these people are sa a a ad

I'm quite suprised at you lot. it's a crappy Sunday Times article that points out the seedier side of combining class As with parent-hood. big bloody deal.

I really fail to see why it's got you all singing from the same hymn sheet. like everything in life there is a huge spectrum. from a single glass of wine at christmas to pills and coke every weekend. somewhere along teh spectrum (and we'd probably all place these things in different places) there's the nightly spliff habit or the whiskey night cap; there's the drunken dinner parties; there's the gin and tonic or three after 6 pm. on a seperate spectrum there's the way in which we care for our kids. again there's a huge amount to put on the spectrum and we'd all place different things in different places - there's sitting them in front to the telly all weekend; there's feeding them fruit shoots; there's running them to junior book club followed by chess coaching and drama school, there's going to church to get them into teh right school; there's working a 60 hour week to give them a better life; there's working a 20 hour week to give them a better life.

drugs (legal and otherwise) habits are a complex beast. the way we care for and the impact on and welfare of our children is huuuugely complex. the relationship between the two is inordinately complex. and I'm really suprised that in this usual bastion of intelligent comment there seems to be little more than just "drugs are bad/boring/illegal/immoral".

Escape, I agree. I couldn't imagine walking up to my dc with any kind of alchol/drug hangover. Your life just changes, doesn't it? I am probably a bit boring to my still single party buddies now...but I feel a lot happier TBH..even if you don't have kids you get to a certain age where you just don't want to do these things anymore surely?I can't thing of anything much sadder than middle aged people on drugs.

We have had a can of Red Bull in the fridge for a year and a half. We don't dare try it because we know it is a banned substance in France and Iceland. Who said you had to snort coke to live life on the edge?

Sunday Times is right kiddo - a woman I was at Uni with fits the piccy perfectly.

hatwoman - totally agree
i just want to re-iterate though, that I read it and thought who are these people
really don't get the lifestyle correlation and why anyone would think its a good idea

and there is a difference between drink and drugs, sorry, and as the daughter of a non functioning alcoholic mother, I'm not big fan of that stuff either

"I can't thing of anything much sadder than middle aged people on drugs"

Who says it has to be the middle aged doing this? surely they could be in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s whatever?

idont know anyone who has weekends int eh country.

stands up and applauds hatwoman. great post.

good post hatwoman. also I mean, a whole weekend in the country? you need something to get you going

Used to be quite good pals with a regular coke user. He had a stroke aged 39 . He has made a pretty good recovery, but still...

lol at Franca

8 years living in Devon and you still haven't got the hang of communing with nature.