Madeleine McCann

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Instead of starting lots of new posts about Madeleine, could I politely request that anyone who wants to post on the subject please post on this one thread? (N.B. Duplicate threads may be flamed hysterically.)

Please note that this thread is not to criticise Madeleine's parents or family, as this is not in the spirit of Mumsnet.

Please can I take the liberty to quote from this article:

"This is the real life of Kate and Gerry McCann, and it must now have become a place of agony beyond all understanding. Pity them, if you have any compassion at all, and demonstrate the minimum of grace: the ability to desist from judgment."

Before this happened, I had never heard of these types of holidays, and regardless of what has happened, I would not chose to go on one.

The idea of leaving while child alone while I went out seems foregin to me.

Luckily I am fortunate that I have a large family, and our last holiday was with my DH, DD, parents, two sisters and their partners.

But even so, I personally would not feel comfortable with holiday places like that, and if that makes me holier than thou for parenting, so be it.

LOL by foreign I meant unreconciable rather than foreign location!

I went to Cyrpus when I was younger and it was lovely - late dinners, kids welcome, families together etc, and I have never really been anywhere, or around people, who openly suggest that children should not be part of a family holiday iyswim

What on earth must they be going through. I feel so sad for Gerry and Kate. My thoughts are with them continually.

mw put a whole new spin on the term "family friendly".

I simply cannot understand how anyone can consider a holiday where children are left in kids club from 9 AM til 12 PM and again from 2-6 PM and then banned from the restaurants from 7 PM to be "family friendly".

I honestly feel that their families should possibly stop talking about Kate and Gerry, as the papers twist their words - ie Kate's mother has said to reporters that she is worried Kate is under a lot of strain (understandable) but the Portugese papers reported this as "Kates mum fears suicide attempt".

I think it is time they took a small step back from speaking to reporters TBH.

this is interesting

how come this thread has 1200 odd posts?

Is that true? Are kids actually BANNED from resort restaurants after 7 pm in mark warner holidays? If so that sounds crazy.

It sounds like they have some promising leads there

bloody hell cant believe it has been 6 months

My tuppence worth,( and this will be my only time I will comment) however judgemental is that they left their kids alone !!!!!!!!!! and whilst I generally try not to watch or read the news too much, I have followed this one every few weeks on the computer and I have never once heard them say that their actions in leaving their children alone were wrong. Not even a YES WE WERE WRONG just a few Oh well most people we have spoken to say they have all done it at one point or another. Only a true poll( which would of course be pointless) would be able to count how many of us really leave our children alone in ANY ROOM to go OUT for a meal with our mates. Yes some people I have spoken to have said 'oh yes its made me think a bit about what I do' .Though I may have many other parenting faults, I can say nothing I do regarding the safety of my children has had to change in the light of this awful tragedy. So as it is human nature to judge( that what morals are, a series of decisions proven thru time), I feel it hard to have empathy with people who chose to put thier fun before the safety of their children. Yes their life may be truly awful for ever more and those of their remianing children, but I can not change that, and they could have prevented it ever happening.

TR, Mn took the limit off to allow there to be only the one thread.

oh right, good idea

Kiddi

Kate McCann months ago said 'we are deserately sorry'

Thier main concern is obvioulsy finding thier daughter, not opologises to the general public, I dont agree with what they did, but will not judge them.

Even now, I still put the news on in the morning, hoping that she has been found safe and well.

Mw too, would'nt it be wonderful?

In the papers today someone is saying they know where she is as well as another article saying there is DNA linking the parents to her disappearance. ?????

Both a load of rubbish I should imagine.

I don't really understand much about DNA but wouldn't it be odd if there WASN'T a DNA link between the parents and Madeleine?

Even weeks after her disappearance there could still have been a hair of Madeleine's on the parents' clothes or possessions that would easily have been transferred to new places.

And I imagine kate has spent many hours hugging and sobbing into Madeleines belongings

Well a lot of us love holidays wher eyou get a break from the children, can leave them in a creche and leave them sleeping whilst they eat. Nothing wrong with it. They are just as likely to die or be hurt when with a parent on the beach like those parents were killed swimming in Portugal.

On the DNA point it's hard to know what's rumour and what is true and presumably also what could have been planted or tampered with by the Portuguese police. It would be nice if the girl cited with the funny eye thing in Morocco is her and they get her back.

Cannot believe it has been 6 months already, Kate and Gerry McCann made a mistake but didn't do something that loads of other parents do but they have payed the ultimate price (I would never do it btw just saying laods would and have done).

I truly feel for them, they now have no chance of ever having a normal life again no matter the outcome, I would love them to be reunitied with their daughter however this now seems unlikely.

The media have hyped this story beyond all recognition, everyday there is a new "story" but honestly has anything moved on from the day she was taken, there has been no new news yed she is on the front of the papers every few days.

What am I missing? Those people (10 of them) who say they say Madeleine in Morocco, why didn't they grab her, especially as they seem so sure?

There is absolutely no evidence of abduction but is evidence of deception from the parents.If forensics had found traces of my missing child I would be hysterical yet they still think she is going to be found.Strange case indeed.