Madeleine McCann

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Instead of starting lots of new posts about Madeleine, could I politely request that anyone who wants to post on the subject please post on this one thread? (N.B. Duplicate threads may be flamed hysterically.)

Please note that this thread is not to criticise Madeleine's parents or family, as this is not in the spirit of Mumsnet.

Please can I take the liberty to quote from this article:

"This is the real life of Kate and Gerry McCann, and it must now have become a place of agony beyond all understanding. Pity them, if you have any compassion at all, and demonstrate the minimum of grace: the ability to desist from judgment."

Has the 1000 post cut off thing been stopped?

only for this thread

ooo err, now now, stop the fighting, or I will put you all on the naughty step

have i missed something? why is the mother the one suspected of killing madeleine? and not the father? or a friend?

The mother is allegedly suspect because a 'cadaver dog' (a trained spaniel which can smell a scent specific to dead bodies, rather than living people) smelt death on her and some of her possessions,and in the apartment. Yesterday there a report in the newspapers that the dog had also reacted to one of their 'tapas 7 ' drinking buddies - sorry - that would be 'dining companions'. The body has to be dead two hours before the scent becomes discernible to the dog.
The McCanns apparently tried to rubbish the dog's findings, but ths particular dog (named Eddie ) is apparently a super-sniffer dog who has been used in something like 200 successful convictions. The McCs then changed their tack (after consulting their team of lawyers ) and asserted that it must have been the fact that as a one-day a week GP, the mother had come inot contact with 6 dead bodies shortly before going on holiday.

GPs do come into regular contact with dead bodies. They are responsible for signing death certs. It's a basic part of the job.

And their friends are doctors, too.

Both parents are suspects.

Apparently these (kind of?) dogs were used in the USA and were wrong 8 times out of 10.

PSCMUM, I admit I haven't read every post on this thread but I dont think anybody is saying anything particularly out of order.

It is human nature to judge.

Why thr hell even open the thread if you are not interested

I find it very very odd that anyone has a personal opinion on the case.

I have no opinion whatsoever. I haven't a clue what happened. I cannot understand why anyone who is not intimately involved in the investigation, should have a strong opinion on what happened.

Wierd, wierd, wierd.

surely if they smelled "death" on the mum would only indicate she had come into contact after 2 hours not actually done the deed. And if as they allege the dad helped dispense with the evidence surely he too would be a bit sniffy

going off at a tangent though... the mother of the morocco madeleine must be pissed off - she's been described as a man and elderly over the last 24 hours and she appears to be neither

Dos anyone else think that moroccon girllooks very unhappy, have seen tons of pics and she looks so sad, but perhaps that was the camera crew, probably a bit frightening for a 5 year old.

forsale - I agree. I find it hard to believe that the mum could have actually killed the girl. More likely scenario IMO that she found her dead, and since there was nothing anyone could do for M, maybe thye decided to concela the death and the thing snowballed out of control with the rellys on TV and starting the website, then the fund. Not the sort of thing you could admit to grieving family. maybe the scent on the mum because she held & cuddled the dead chils - that woould be understandable

that sent shivers down my spine.

Uhhh yeak kooka - but if you found your child dead what would you do??
scream? run outside with her shouting for help - call the police an ambulance? - these are things any normal person would do

or start thinking how you could hide the body - whyyy would you do that if you had nothing to do with the death

I dont know whether thay did it or not, but i dont see why a mother would have that reaction to the accidental death of her child!!

I think kooka is thinking on the allagation that the children were sedated, but I just dont see how a doctor could overdose thier own child accidently, even if they both gave her a dose, thinking the other one had'nt, that would still not be enough to overdose her surely.

oh god MOVE ON GUYS

Just trying to reconcile the cadaver scent on the mum as per the query earlier, - i am NOT saying what I think I would do if I found a dead child...
And Ms Northern Rock - M is still missing - hard to 'move on' - as has been said before - if you're really so not interested, why not just butt OUT

cos some of us think that you lot are obsessed liek GHOULS savourign every last frisson from a potentialy DEAD child
there!

i'm not staying, but i can't help coming in for a second to say its so wrong that some of you are still lamely going on about how and why they must have done something awful .they are devastated parents - leave them alone you weirdos.

i'm not staying, but i can't help coming in for a second to say its so wrong that some of you are still lamely going on about how and why they must have done something awful .they are devastated parents - leave them alone you weirdos.