Money for pregnant women to buy fruit and veg ....

[ComeOVeneer]

thoughts?

Reallytired: I still had nearly a stone over and above pre-pg weight when I got pg again, while still breastfeeding 19mo ds really rather a lot. I think that was my natural post-children weight (pre-children I weighed just over 7 1/2 stone).

And please be careful with terms like 'fail at bf'. I had an infernal struggle to get bf established - we were lucky it worked out - and if anyone had suggested I was failing I'm not sure what I would have done.

'Walking to the shops and leaving the car would help with the battle with the bulge. There is no need for gym membership (especially as many people pay for gym membership and don't use it.) Playing football in the park with your children, lugging shopping are all good forms of exercise'.

can you also explain to me why I am still 2 stone overweight when I do all this and eat fruit and veg.

I put a lot of weight on when I was pg with dd2 and I just can't shift it

Perhaps you should consider that many women have loads of bad stuff happening in thier lives (as I did 4 months ago, feel free to do a search) and may not have the strength to take care of themselves until things improve for them

It's precisely that simplistic "on your bike" attitude that let down a whole generation of people through the last government. We had the Tories telling us to pull our socks up and sort yourselves out, now we have do-gooders telling us they know better.

Just because a politician has a baby doesn't mean the nation has to learn from his experience. Interesting that Blair's Education mission started when Euan was going into secondary.

Forgive me for sketchy references... I'm still offended by the way, Reallytired, or are you too "good" a person to apologise.

oh yes i 'failed at bf' because I had a botched caesarian, scar was raw and open for 2 months, a damaged bladder due to a crap catheter, I was in agony doubled over the bed for days afterwards. I couldn't even bf my dd2.

Then I had a blood tranfusion and to top it all my lovely dad died of cancer 3 weeks afterwards, as did a close friend of mine

But cheers reallytired thanks a lot you really make me feel fantastic

Well clearly this is a waste of money sweet idea tho it is.
Really tired, I agree that frequently mothers don't get the support they need, whether re: breastfeeding, diet, or any other of the myriad questions that occur.
I've hijacked a freindly postnatal group (I think) and pestered La Leche, NCT, etc, looking for support with DS3,aged 5 months. I've had to be very persistent and overcome my inherent shyness. I've now got the support, but only just. And only just kept Breast Feeding. Its HARD on your own.
So yes more support is needed for mothers, but not vouchers. Better HVs?

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels offended. She's entitled to her opinion but she's not entitled to be so insensitive. She's already driven me to eat copious amounts of chocolate and now I need a drink!

"If you eat more calories than your body uses then you will get fat. Breastfeeding uses up 500 calories a day. Obviously if you eat to excess and do no exercise then you will stay fat. Its hardly rocket science!"

I am currently bfing my 3rd child. With each one I have gained weight whilst bfing but then lost it again once I stopped bfing. Bfing makes me fat, simple as that.

" Walking to the shops and leaving the car would help with the battle with the bulge. There is no need for gym membership (especially as many people pay for gym membership and don't use it.) Playing football in the park with your children, lugging shopping are all good forms of exercise."

Not great actually, good enough to maintain a healthy level of fitness but walking is not going to do much to help with losing a lot of weight. And if you are bfing a young baby, looking after toddlers, playing with them at the park, walking miles to do your shopping at the same time as cooking, cleaning, school runs etc, even if you're on benefits/SAHM and "have all the time in the world" it doesn't leave alot of opportunity for vigorous exercise.

I am a fat fucker anyway and I didn't breastfeed, so I understand the tired bints words. I eat too much and do not excercise enough.

So

Fucking

What

I am not getting a fucking grant to pay for it.

actually fruit and veg can be expensive, ive bought a small punnet of tasty organic strawberries from a delivery veg box company, and tescos do more but tasteless for the same price! You dont get that much for ur money, grapes etc, cos a few quid! by the time u filled up on fruit and veg its like £30 quid, then uve gotta get food, nappies, cleanig stuff, toilet roll blah!! grr! apples and babbans are not bad and potatoes but it does all add up but its not impossible ona tight budget! we had tinned pineapple for brekkie today cos we cudnt afford fresh! sahme, but it was ok !

i meant bannas

But let's face it, if you buy fresh veg, it's obsolete after a few days so you may as well buy frozen (good quality).

yes im offended reallytired! just be carefull when refrencing! i was on benefits and had stuff happening in my life pnd, being abandoned etc allways had plenty to keep me occupied, sorting out housing, bills, debts trying to get thru a day with a new baby! and i tried to breastfeed and didnt get enough support, it was very hard for me! And i was anti bottle feeding but i had no choice and nobody is a failure if it doesnt work for them, nobody should be forced into doing it ! my ds is healthy thank you!

yes ucm and when u cant think of anything to make with them or dont have time, as it wasnt in ur meal plans! then yes it does go to waste! shame! i wish i did have a garden (will do one day ) will grow my own! AND GIVE IT AWAY!

I have to bback up the point that breastfeeding doesnt make you loose weight, i wish it was that simple. I was a bit chubby then the minute i stopped feeding the weight dropped off without any changes to diet or exercise routines, it just affects my metabolism somehow.

I never lost weight while breastfeeding either. Only began to lose it about a month after I stopped.

poor people on benefits simply can' be trusted with the cash - they all spend it on drugs

maybe custardo all peole that are on benefits are not druggies, or alchoholics, or young mums etc or whatevr stigma they are attached with! i never spent any of my benefit on drugs ever, so i would stop with the damming generalisationand assumptions! maybe you need to go and do some voluntary work with people that are underpriveledged and see what u find!

many mums do not have to claim benefit as they have a partner that works, as mine did b4 he left me on my own! so i had no choice and i intended to stay at home with my ds for at least a year! some mums have to go str8 to work to earn and pay the mortgage etc, when they are barely a month old! they dont get criticised and why should they? they are simply doing what they have to do to survive, like many peole on benifts are! And b4 u ask i was working full time b4 i fell pregnant, and was renting a property, and i certainly had ambition, and still do! im in my final year at uni, working part time, with no benifit, and mangaging to saty afloat! does that fit in with your ridiculous narrow minded perception of those on benefits! (and there are so many benefits to choose from) dont be so shallow! MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET EDUCATED IN THE REALISTIC FRAMEWORK OF SOCIETY

AND WERE NOT ALL POOR, IF WE CANT BE TRUSTED THAT MAKES EVERY CLAIMANT A CRMINAL, MAY ASWELL LOCK US ALL UP! OHH U CANT COS THE PRISONS ARE FULL

Chocabloc

custardo was being very sarcastic, although I totally understand that this doesn't come across well in type. She was not Damning, she was mocking those who damn.

i rthink custy was saying it tongue in cheek chocobloc

i was mocking

When you get hett up by a poster it's always a good sign when others come in to mock them.

I actually think that people like that are dangerous. My baby suffered because of "people" like her.

Can I say that it is not just irresponsible mothers on benefits who would not spend this on fruit and veg. I have a good job and good diet, and at 32 weeks have bought most of the baby stuff I think I need to start with - but my pregnant colleague and I were agreeing over lunch that you could get a nice pair of boots for that...

I can't see how this could be managed so that people would spend it on good diets.

I suppose it is the same as Child Benefit though, where everybody gets the same and it's up to them what they spend it on.

My fear is that the people that this policy is targeted at will not benefit from it as much as some.

I think the money would be better spent on good home economics classes in school. No idea what they're currently like but I had a grand total of 6 classes during my whole education.

Its no suprise that if thats standard then people don't know what they should be eating or don't know how to cook healthily even if they do know.