Kate McCann offered a 'deal' if she confesses to killing madeleine

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well it said on the radio last night that they where left from 30 to 90 minutes.....big time gap if you ask me

Of course we have to consider the fact that they have been released without any charges, which is a little suspicious. There cant be any valid 100% proof they did it, as yet.

morningpaper - I agree, as I said we felt v uncomfortable with it and used the listening service once and literally gobbled our food down and RAN back to our room.

That's just not pleasureable. HOWEVER we might have felt differently if we were with friends all doing the same thing.

On our recent holiday (not MW) we met people who left their children in their hotel rooms whilst they were in the bar...it goes on all the time...as I say - not with us -

I'm just saying that its not out of the ordinary and Gerry McCann was only doing what everyone else did (ie listening for crying) and this shouldn't be veiwed as strange behaviour of a guilty man.........

and i still dont understand why they didnt use the babysitting facilities included in the holiday

fawkeoff I have felt exactly the same.
In both cases a 3 year old child is dead or missing.
The differences being in one case the gran is a cannabis smoking wine drinking council house chave type and in the other the parents are nice professional middle class etc types.
I think the children in both cases are important not their carers

Id be anxious after leaving my dc for 10minutes, let alone 90! They are just babies those 3, bless em.

at the end of the day they haven't been charged, they're not on bail so they can travel freely. Until they are formally charged and convicted of anything I prefer to think they are innocent. I find all the speculation gory and it is shocking that Mumsnet is now being quoted in the press as a site full of McCann bashers.

debgronow

completely different cases - If we believe the McCanns they were subject to a criminal break-in - the sort of thing that could happen when you are mowing the lawn.

The other involved allowing a known dangerous dog into a room with a toddler.

exactly, the only thing that has kept them out of the cells is their money.

virgo it is the same thing,the mcanns left those children unattended in that room fully aware that something could happen to them, just like the grandmother with the dog.

Jackie Simposn is charged with manslaughter I think. Not murder.

and following that reasoning - every parent would have to take their children out of the car when paying for petrol - because in that 1 in 3 trillion case when a child is snatched form you car in that 10 mintue slot you could be arrested and charged with neglect which resulted in your child's death - ridiculous.

as I said MW positively encouraged this behaviour - EVERYONE was doing it when I was there. perhaps MW's policy should be investigated.

Neither McCann has admitted to sedating any of their children. In fact they have repeatedly denied it, they have also denied that there were any syringes in the apartment. That story came from a Portuguese newspaper not the police. Speculate all you like, but don't pretend it's fact.

fawkeoff

I disagree - there was no dog!

Um virgo - lots of people on MN think that's exactly what parents should do at petrol stations...

apparently allegedlyit seems to mei thinksupposedly

spot a pattern here?
It makes me feel physically sick that we might all being quoted and lumped in with the lynch mob with this horrible horrible speculating and damning.

If I wasn't getting such great support on another thread for something I have going on at the moment, I wouldn't want to be a mumsnettter today.

But I guess that's the nature of the beast. I really really really hate all this though

yes I know - but I have never seen anyone doing it...

It is so sad to think that this could be the conclusion to what happened to this poor little girl.

Everybody in the world just wanted the safe return of this little girl to her loving parents, now if this did happen accidental or not how could the parents go on TV and plea for her return knowing full well what had really happened. This is the bit that I just cannot get my head around and the bit that I really do not want to believe has happened.

virgo....there was no one!!!! that is bloody worse, can u not understand that it is against the law to leave your children unattended like that.If it had been a poorer class family that this has happened to their other kids would have been taken into care....open your eyes!!!!

Are the McCanns going in for more questioning today do we know? Do we know if the poice will reveal all details of the blod and DNA tests?

I am going to bath the kids and do some housework, and try to stay away from the news til this afternoon, I just hope the end is near.

It really is like the Salem witch hunts around here.

How can anyone possibly know what happened/what didn't and what the police know or don't know.

That poor child.

i am not saying they killed the little girl, but i am saying they are in the wrong for leaving the children anyway

ok - don't shout - its just an opinion and we're all entitled...

as has been said before on MN - its not against the law (UK law anyway)to leave your children unattended - fact. only to do so which could be viewed as neglect - h ave an 8 year old now - who I let out to the shop - some do this when their children are 6 - its all a matter of trying to getting it right as a parent -

I happen to think that the McCann's did not neglect their children - some disagree with me - fair enough.

I am not trying to voice an opinion as to whether they were right or wrong - but just saying what they were doing was not unusual so shouldn't be spun as if it was to try and cover up her accidental death by one of them..

One of these will come in handy about now.

Leaving them on a petrol forecourt where you can SEE them at all times and they are covered by about 100 CCTV cameras is not quite the same