Kate McCann offered a 'deal' if she confesses to killing madeleine

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And I didn't write that, LB.

wannabe - you've already convicted them

Even before the police

It broke Sally Clark's heart to read what people thought of her

bobbysmum, why d'you keep putting the McCann's friends in inverted commas?

Are you suggesting they weren't their friends?

I am surprised that it has taken so long for the parents to be declared as formal suspects and that it has come as such a shock to many people that they could be involved.

In the majority of abduction (and murder/manslaughter) cases, the victim knows their attacker/abducter and in most cases they are members of the family.

I dont know if the McCanns did or did not do it (sometimes I think it must have been them, other times I find the thought unbelievable) but I would have thought that they have been prime suspects from the beginning and that because of the media frenzy, the Portugese police have been making very sure that all their evidence against them is very strong.

sorry dellgirl, i used a sillyu analogy there, i don't think the 2 situations are comparable - i was just trying to illustrate how ridiculous it is to assert people with something so monumental to hide do not generally engage the world in watching them. However, people who are desperately looking for their child, now they might have a LEGITIMATE reason to encourage journalists to print her picture as often as possible.

Ok, even if we can't agree on their motivation for inviting the media to watch them...perhaps you could explain when they got the chance to move the body when everyone has been watching them and they don't know the area very well?

Perhaps you think the Pope was involved...?

little bella-sorry didnt associate it name did not ring a bell(my spelling is terrible today)

Its a scary situation whichever view you have on this.
On the one hand you may believe they are totally innocent and therefore it is ludicrous to think this could be any one of us who are now being treated as suspects. Either portuguese law system is a joke and or their investigation is clutching at straws and they are wrongly accusing those poor parents.
On the other hand, they could be guilty as hell. How scary is that to think a professional intelligent couple whos lives have been focused on caring for others could possibly do such a terrible thing. And of course their campaign since meadeleines disappearance has just been a complete farce.(?sp)

I beleive they are innocent, however when she first went missing i was suprised at the McCanns composure during those first few interviews with the media.
My dh has disagreed with me and has for some time suspected the parents.

On the one hand it would be a relief to finally know who did what and what happened to the poor child. While at the same time it is incomprehensable to even consider the McCanns as guilty of such an evil event and the pantomime that has ensued.

Half of me wants to think the girl died in her sleep rather than any awful suffering or torture should could have endured or even still be enduring.

wannabe - they made their campaign international as the police failed to close any borders the night she was taken and so there was a poss she was removed from the country.

Thge thought that they took the focus of luz is ridiulous - they could have done it so much better by coming home instead of living out there going through hell far away from home. Then the journos would have sson melted away.

And bobbysmum - you are well and truly just making it up as you go along...are you a police officer?

maybe the police did not search the appartment straight away. they were ob not searched every time they left the appartment.apparently no one had seen the child since the afternoon/early evening and what about the man seen carrying the child it could have been gerry with her. there are many sordid ways that i can think of . not because i am a weirdo but because i come accross things in my line of work. things that one would not beleive possible.

no. but I think it's far more likely that they, or someone they were associated with, had something to do with her disappearance.

There are just too many inconsistencies in this case, plus I find the notion that someone would have earmarked a child for abduction while she was still in this country, and have then followed that child on holiday to abduct her absolutely ludicress. If that were the case, then I would say that someone would be known to the family...

o do me a favour. 'not searched every time they left the apartment' - nope, not searched, but - i know this is seriously controvertial - but just maybe, if someone had a dead body inside their vest top, the waiting 100 photographers might notice?
just a thought.

Oh sorry bobbysmum I thought it was you, maybe it was someone else, can't be arsed to go back through thread and find out who now.

i did mean that they may have removed they body before they alerted the police. there are other ways in a suitcase maybe when they moved appartments?

wannabe - i totally agree with you,k it could weel have been someone who the family know. But not the parents.

And what are the inconsistencies eveyrone keep mentioning? The only inconsistencies I can see is the crap portugues police accusing these poor parents who have been through so much, and still have not found their daughter, and now have this nightmare on top of it all!

And that theory that she was earmarked before she left the country is not ludicrous - check the child exploitation sites for some awful stories of how children are selected - and anyway, that has never been put forward by the McCanns and so indicates neither their guilt or innocence either way.

this would explain the blood in car and the scent of a corpse in the new appartment

Lets face it, none of us know anything. We can only assume or speculate. Lets just hope we have an ending soo one way or another.

Rght dell girl, so, they killed their daughtrer in 10 mins spilt a bit of blood in a carf they were yet to hire, and a bit on the wall of the apartment, then went back to dinner with their friends, then hid the body in a suitcase, then alreted the police, then contacted the worlds media, then moved the body into the new apartmenr 6 weeks later, still in suitcase, and no one noticed.

Is the body still there do you know? Or has it met up with you in cloud cuckoo land?

Which bit have I made up?

And no, I'm not a police officer. My dad is - or was, he's retired now. But once a copper, always a copper ...

"You clearly know it was them who wanted to stay in the public eye. Why why why?!" To create the impression they have created - that they couldn't possibly be responsible I suppose? Because it is almost impossible to believe that they could be and why is that? None of us knows the family, but we're all sure it couldn't possibly be them - because of what we know about them from their media campaign. On the other hand there were good valid reasons for launching the campaign so they can't win can they - damned if they do, damned if they don't. It's all speculation. My guess is they won't be able to charge anyone until they find a body.

Hmm, I'm agreeing with you quite a bit on this hread today haychee.

Who'd've thunk it!

None of us know anything, let's face it. Even the media know only what the police choose to feed them.

Look, the DNA evidence in that car does not have to have come from a body. It could easily just have come from the clothes she was wearing.

inconsistencies are that family went to dinner and said they were checking every 30 minutes. waiting staff said that none of the family left the table, in fact that the family never checked on the children all the holiday.

family said that the shutters had been jemmied open, police and hotel manager said that this was not the case.

When Kate Mccann went back to check, she discovered that Madeleine was gone, and went back, leaving her other two children,to tell the rest that "they've taken Madeleine" (according to philomina was it?). Who are they? plus, if you thought your child had been abducted, would you leave the other two there to go and tell the family? not knowing if the abductor might be waiting to come back for them?

no the sequence you have noted is wrong try again this time think about it!

LilianGish - I agree. I don't think they'll be able to bring charges without a body.

Quite

I hope she died accidentally with an overdose of sedation, it would of been a peaceful end for her. But blood traces, doesnt tally with sedation o/d. Transporting her body around in a suitcase is a bit far fetched, however not impossible.

But none of us know for sure.