OMG, Kate McCann is expected to be formally declared as a SUSPECT???!!!

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I was watching the news last night re Kate McCanns requestioning by the Portuguese Police. I have updated on the events this morning and it appears she will be declared as a SUSPECT today. Im shocked about this, what do you all think? Surely she didnt have anything to do with it?

Yes I do think that. She is just not wailning and sobbing in public, but pain is written all over her face and in her eyes.

i imagine they;ve been studied by stacks of psychologists etc and criminologists - im sureif there's something amiss they will pick up pon it

I don't think so either Jodie.
Like I said though, who knows how you'd deal with it?

As someone who isnt given to great public displays of emotion she looks like a grieving mother to me.

RTKM - not convinced necessarily - it is perfectly plausible for it to have been one of them, as other cases show. However I am happy to believe they are innocent for now - nless it is shown to be otherwise. I suppose I prefer to give benefit of the doubt at this stage.

What could they have done with the body???
I have been to Luz and it is quite a small little village.
Are they seriously suggesting that they killed her, disposed of the body (cannot even think where!!!) and then cleaned themselves up to rejoin friends for dinner. All in the space of a few minutes.

What a tragedy.

Why is it inconceivable that someone took her?? The apartment is right of the street and it would have been easy for someone to do so. IMO it is a far easier scenario then The McCanns doing something.
And if they did it, why stay there? Surely they would want to get as far away from where it happened as possible.

This actaully makes me sick.

Im not convinced they are innocent I just havent seen anything to prove that they arent so until I do I will reserve judgement and view them as parents who have lost a child in hideous circumstances.

I think MNHQ should pull this thread.

Maybe shows no emotion because she is most likey drugged up to the eyeballs so that she can just function

I don't think she looks like a grieving mother, different interpretation to her looks for us all then. I can't see any lack of life in her eyes.

but if the child died accidentally the parent would still grieve? even if the parents knew what had happened, doesn't mean they wouldn't feel/display emotion?

GGG I agree, I wasn't suggesting there was any reason for her not looking like she's grieving (imo) just that she doesn't look that way to me. Of course everyone would deal with things differently though.

Also, the Susan Smith case was very different as the police considered her a suspect from the very beginning, it just took them a little while to prove it. There was very little investigation because they were focused on her. Police psychologists reports suggested it was regret and guilt that caused the emotions. It was a good performance, but not good enough.

Yes, there have been many times that it has been determined that the parents were involved in these type of killings. But there have been many innocent people jailed (Sally Clark) and even more who have had their lives ruined by speculation.

This investigation is an embarrasment to the Portugese police and they just want to wash their hands of it IMO.

anyone ready for more wool?

after my friend was murdered I used to visit her parents from time to time and i was always surprised at how they were - i expected major depression but they were actually OK. Obviously i dont kmow how they were in the first few days but on the whole they were "not as you would expect". they didnt murder her btw

We HOPE they are innocent.

We cant find a plausable reason for them to have done it.

They have witnesses for thier whereabouts that night.

They are well repected intelligent professional people (not a reason in itself)

Why the campaign, why the heightened media awareness and european travel if they were guilty - it seems bizarre to keep the story at such a high level.

They were said to be upset and angered by the slow start of the initial police investigations, details of MMC clothing etc.

I just cant see how they could possibly be involved.

Interesting. Is there some sort of scale for the amount of grief a woman should exhibit when her child is missing?
Maybe she just feels if she breaks down it will be like admitting she is dead.

I am convinced neither of their innocence nor of their guilt, as not enough evidence either way has been revealed.

However I do think it is possible that FurReal's scenario could be true. If that were the case, then Madeleine's death would have been accidental, and the parents would be grieving terribly, while also wracked with guilt at what they had (albeit unplanned) done.

I do think in those circumstances it would have been difficult to dispose of a body, particularly with the friends they were eating with being around as witnesses, although not impossible - say they temporarily hid the body in the car, where no-one would initially think of looking, as it was an assumed abduction.

But there are also many other explanations for what may have happened that night, and as yet no firm evidence has been forthcoming.

I think it will be very difficult to find the truth unless Madeleine or her body is found.

Message withdrawn

I'd hate to make any accusations and some theories I see here cannot be substanciated from our positions. I hope that the truth is indeed discovered about what happened to this little girl, and against hope that she will be somehow found safe.

Someone mentioned Munchausen's and it reminded me of the great injustices one of out MNers has suffered in the name of this syndorme and an assumption that she may have suffered from it. We can't presume the truth as we have no evidence to do so. I do feel that these children were neglected and that neglect is responsible for allowing what ever happened to happen but who perpetrated it, and what and how and why they did it I'd prefer to leave to the police.

I hope that no ill has befallen her - let alone at the hands of her own parents. It has happened before but i hope it is not what has happened here.

Furreal...that is crap. I have been to Luz and it is tiny. No Marin btw.
Check your facts the Marina is in Lagos, which is 5 miles away.

sharklet

I am sorry I am not explaining myself very well today

I don't mean she has Munchhausens

I mean like in munchausens it is attention seeking sort of like what they have been doing with the constant press etc

sorry for not explaining myself

No comment to make on the thread as a whole but just have to say that I think the speculation about how a person should behave when they grieve is quite the most preposterous thing I have ever encountered.
People who have experienced REAL grief close at hand, particularly when it is unexpected, know that it is not predictable.
Anyone who expects people to behave in a predictable way when faced with shock or grief either have ( lucky for them ) limited life experience of such things or .... well actually I am not sure how to put it politely but it is to do with not being very empathetic or bright.

I don't know if there is a legal version of it

Sort of not medical things done to others

But the attention seeking part of it like wanting attention from press media legal stuff

I agree with Issy.

So much gets lost in translation here.

If the police have new evidence and go back to square one, is it not likely that they will draw up a list of everyone who could conceivably be under suspicion, in order to eliminate them from enquiries?

People with no knowledge of the Portuguese legal system, and not party to the detailed facts, really would be better not succumbing to lurid speculation - about anyone.

And how dare people presume to know how the Mccanns are reacting? Despite the heavy media coverage we have only seen them for brief glimpses - not the moments when they are alone and in darkness. How do you know what medication they might be on? Rape victims are often icy calm when describing the most horrible details in court but I bet Mumsnetters would be saying 'oooh, I couldn't do that, she must be lying'. You cannot know.