OMG, Kate McCann is expected to be formally declared as a SUSPECT???!!!

[haychee]

I was watching the news last night re Kate McCanns requestioning by the Portuguese Police. I have updated on the events this morning and it appears she will be declared as a SUSPECT today. Im shocked about this, what do you all think? Surely she didnt have anything to do with it?

Perhaps she was abducted by bees, who escaped with her through the beehatch...?

Yes, no excuse for bad grammar ...

Oh this isnt pretty.....

oh dear.
IT's the 21st century so mistakes don't happen.

It's not the technology that's important, it's what people do with it.

I have no idea if they murdered their child or not. I think it highly unlikely. But let's not be under any illusions that miscarriages of justice couldn't happen any more. Sion Jenkins anyone?

At the risk of sounding like a total arse I am at a loss to know why anyone even wants to speculate about what has happened, let alone spend an evening chewing it over on teh net. TBH I find the whole thing so awful, regardless of what has happened or who is responsible, that I turn off the news or don't read the newspaper.

Until someone is charged and found guilty I find the picking over of what may or may not have happened quite revolting.

buzzzzz

Which cases, exactly, Desi? If you are going to start slinging mud around, then you should make clear who you are insulting.

STT well in that case one has to ask: what are you doing on this thread?

McEdam! A little over the top, no?

A miscarriage of justice refers to the nitty gritty of English law, the little particulars that can trip a person up.

I'm not referring to the MM case. I rarely have, tbh. But in response to a poster who mentioned the Birmingham Six, I merely say that just because a miscarriage of justice was perceived (and we have no written law, so perception is everything and nothing), it does not follow that the party in question were necessarily innocent.

It simply means that there was a miscarriage of justice.

Controversial? About as controversial as a dog's got bollocks.

No desiderata, it means that justice was not done.

You are using a definition of miscarriage of justice that no-one else using the English language uses.

"A miscarriage of justice refers to the nitty gritty of English law, the little particulars that can trip a person up"

sorry Desi. Lying coppers, nasty racist judges, evidence withheld from defence, lost paers....blah..these are not "little particulars"..they are evidence of a bent system. Don't undermine miscarriages simply because they take a lot of care to understand.

are we anywhere near the magic 1000th post yet?

pleasssssssssssssssse?

So, LB, hands clasped to your norks, and all that ... victims of miscarriage of justice are all innocent?

Maybe some of them just had good lawyers?

Well, most dogs dont have bollocks these days [pointless]

You are technically correct Desi. Overturned convictions, or appeals that have found convictions to be 'unsafe' dont mean that the person/s in question are innocent, just that justice/procedure wasnt meted out as per the law.

I dont know of any cases whereby it is clear that the convicted person was guilty, but their conviction was overturned/quashed though.

did you know police officers cannot say 'nitty gritty' it's deemed racist

has it been mentioned where she had been sleeping, top bunk maybee, that could explain the broken neck theory

i just heard on the news that the last person to check on her was a male friend another doctor has anyone mentioned him before

nitty gritty

wot?

why?

is it not true though that the last person to check never went into the room, i think he just stood and listened.

(and then quickly ran round the rest of the rooms where more children were sleeping)

what I heard was the last person to 'check on her' put his head to the door and listened, the next person was Kate who discovered her missing.

LB - yes I remember dh telling me about it, he was non-plussed.

found this news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1988776.stm

so the last actual person who saw her was her dad an hour before kate found her missing?

Hmmm, sorry, Pan. Much as I love you, I see no evidence that your uber-liberal approach to the judiciary is bearing much fruit.

I will say again, I have no ghoulish interest in the MM case, but to crime and punishment issues in general, surely it isn't a lunatic POV to suggest that a miscarriage of justice, however heinous, does not, in itself, necessarily prove innocence?

It merely proves that the investigating officer was a twat. It might be that the party is innocent, but the imcompetance of the police does not make it a given.

Are you the Queen of Hearts Desi?

(Was it her who said that something meant exactly what she wanted it to mean, nothing more, nothing less? Or was it the other queen?)

Her dad said when he went to check he didn't actually see her and assumed she had gone into the other bedroom to get away from the twins crying So god knows who actually saw her Very odd