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OMG, Kate McCann is expected to be formally declared as a SUSPECT???!!!

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haychee · 07/09/2007 08:30

I was watching the news last night re Kate McCanns requestioning by the Portuguese Police. I have updated on the events this morning and it appears she will be declared as a SUSPECT today. Im shocked about this, what do you all think? Surely she didnt have anything to do with it?

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Hulababy · 07/09/2007 09:48

expatinscotland - think that woman Smith (?) is up for parole but not for about another 20 years or so.

wannaBe · 07/09/2007 09:48

and maybe people wouldn't be so quick to jump on this now if they hadn't previously been slated for daring to have the opinion that leaving children was wrong.

If people had been allowed to debate this issue before, then maybe those that held the opinion that the Mccanns were in the wrong wouldn't have felt the need to come back to these threads and have their say now that it's obviously slightly more relevant.

binkleandflip · 07/09/2007 09:49

No, witchburning no comparison at all.

The McCanns generally have had nothing but support on the whole. (There's a great big fund to prove it and lots of yellow ribbons everywhere).

expatinscotland · 07/09/2007 09:50

I'm surprised they weren't suspects from the get go. I thought that was a formality in such cases.

sharklet · 07/09/2007 09:51

I know it means something different in Portugal to be a suspect. Surely in this country if either parent were found responsible for negligence which led to thier child's accidental death then it would be considered wether they were guilty of at least involuntary manslaughter. This may be a similar circumstance in portugese law - I don't know. Whilst I doubt that Kate McCann has calculatedly injured her child, in my mind just by leaving them night after night without supervision (as she did) refusing the safety of a baby sitter (which she did) and putting her need to hang out with her pals above her kids safety amounts to serious neglect and surely if that neglect led to Madelaine's death or abduction then the parents are in some way culpable.

In cases in the past when children have vanished or been murdered police psycologists have watched carefully the actions and reactions of parents (whilst supporting their pleas for thier child's safe return) parents who have been amazing actors, who we have wept for and in some cases the psycologists' suspicions have unearthed uncomfortable truths that one or both of the parents have indeed been responsible for heinous crimes. The same is said when spouses have vanished - remember the road rage girl?? I'm not saying that is the case here - but simply that surely they must keep an open mind if Madeleine's case is to be judged fairly and if this action of changing kate McCann's status allows then to progress in thier investigations then surely (however painful for her) its a good thing.

KerryMum · 07/09/2007 09:55

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bobbysmum07 · 07/09/2007 09:56

I don't understand why so many people here believe that these parents could not possibly have had anything to do with this child's disappearance.

What exactly leads you all to this conclusion, other than the fact that you identify with them (moving in similar social circles, having pretty little blonde girls called Maddies, etc).

For God's sake, the police found blood in the apartment that this child disappeared from. They allegedly found blood in the parent's rental car. The only person to substantiate the parents' claim that the child was abducted was a friend of theirs who allegedly saw the abductor with the child (but, of course, kept quiet about it for several weeks). The only people to put Murat in the frame were other 'friends' of the parents and the parents themselves.

I have no problem whatsoever in believing that the parents had something to do with it (usually they have in these cases), and if the blood in that apartment belonged to that child, it was them no question. What I can't work out is where the 'friends' come into it. What's in it for them to lie? Unless they all have something to hide. In which case, the whole thing becomes a lot more simister.

wannaBe · 07/09/2007 09:57

but what impact will this have on their other children. surely being the suspect in the case of a child that has disappeared/presumed dead would have some impact on the assumed welfare of the remaining children?

expatinscotland · 07/09/2007 09:59

I'll never forget how she carried on, Kerry, that Susan Smith. It was so awful.

The truth was even worse.

Not saying the McCanns case is anything akin, just saying that anything's possible in such cases, unfortunately.

sazzybee · 07/09/2007 09:59

Why was it the parents 'no question' if there was blood found in the apartment?

It's like the Daily Mail live around here

amidaiwish · 07/09/2007 10:00

yes, Mumsnet "In the news" section should be renamed "Daily Mail Live" - must mention it to TECH!

bobbysmum07 · 07/09/2007 10:01

And (I said this at the beginning, but had my posts mysteriously deleted), what about the 'fighting fund'? There's a clause in it that actually says the parents can use it to pay for legal costs. You'll all be funding their defence!

It's unbelievable.

KerryMum · 07/09/2007 10:01

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contentiouscat · 07/09/2007 10:01

People feel safe when they are on holiday, I would never do it because I am not a person who naturally trusts other people but they felt they were safe and decided to leave the children; I am sure they would be the first people to say it was a bad decision and they would never do it again. It doesnt find Madeline or solve the case by waving the finger of blame at them again over that and having read other threads on here it has done nothing to stop some other people from leaving their children.

How should a parent whose child has gone missing behave anyway, should she be wailing all over the place? Some of the best weepy press performances have been put on by the perpetrator of the crime.

Hulababy · 07/09/2007 10:02

sazzybee - I agree. I don't understand that point at all. Why does the blood mean it is the parents?

bobbysmum07 · 07/09/2007 10:05

Someone had tried to clean up the blood. Do you truly believe an intruder would do that before fleeing the crime scene with the body?

Come on, I thought people here were supposed to be intelligent.

binkleandflip · 07/09/2007 10:07

I was under the impression that the blood wasnt naked to the human eye and was basically invisile blood cells picked up in a sweep of the room, so they could have been inadvertently cleaned in the usual room turnover by the maids?

wannaBe · 07/09/2007 10:07

because murdering a child, clearing up the evidence, and then disappearing with the body would take time. And when you have no idea when someone is going to come back, time is something you don't have.

If that child was murdered in the apartment, then it had to be by someone that knew the child.

And if she met with an accident, then someone that knew her disposed of the body.

TigerFeet · 07/09/2007 10:08

wrt KMcC not acting like someone who has lost a daughter... remember the case a few years back where the British guy went missing in the Australian Outback? The world was convinced it must have been his girlfriend as she "wasn't acting like someone whose boyfriend had gone missing". There was a real press campaign against her. Turned out that she had been telling the truth all along...

Myself, I have no idea whether the McCanns were involved in their daughter's disappearance as I wasn't there.

Just because she hasn't completely lost the plot, doesn't mean she's guilty

Just because she seems like a nice person who couldn't possibly have done it, doesn't mean she's innocent

imho we'll probably never know

binkleandflip · 07/09/2007 10:09

good points Tigerfeet

bananaknickers · 07/09/2007 10:09

My dd is a year older and is covered in cuts and brusies. there are a number of reasons why M,s blood could be in the apartment.She could of had a nose bleed or knocked a scab maybe.

Perhaps the police will want to charge them with neglect ? Did someone say it is against the law to leave children unattended in Potragal?

totaleclipse · 07/09/2007 10:09

So if she is being made a formal susect to safeguard her legally, surely this could have been kept from the media, they have enought backlash to deal with already. I think the parents are 100% innocent.

SSSandy2 · 07/09/2007 10:10

So much of what has been published about this case has turned out to be utter cr*, just fabricated lies supposedly leaked by "source closed to the Portugese police" that I'm not convinced this dna implicates the parents in any way.

To the best of my knowledge, all that has been confirmed (BBC) is that the PJ have received partial results of the dna testing done in England. THe PJ themselves have not confirmed that they have received the dna. Last thing I read.

All this talk about it being evidence of someone having been in a part of the Mccann's apartment where they should not have been is probably untrue and comes from the same Portugese papers who have publsihed a lot of other rot in this case. So I don't believe it. THe talk that this is dna from Madeleine found in their new apartment or the car rented after her disappearance has also not been confirmed by anyone credible so it is probably untrue as is the story that the smell of a corpse was on Kate Mccann's clothes.

We'll have to wait and see. All we know is some partial result of the dna testing which we were previously told was too contaminated to be tested effectively may or may not have been sent to the PJ in Portugal - and that's all really.

It will probably all blow over like every other "dramatic development" we have had in this case already and sadly leave no one closer to knowing what happened to Madeleine.

And personally I can't see what the big deal is if they found Madeleine's dna in the new apartment where all her things must be surely?

haychee · 07/09/2007 10:10

Its all a tad strange. To have to become a suspect before you can be asked certain questions about your daughters disappearance. Also, they have witnesses to say they were dining at the tapas bar with friends. I just dont get it.
I know its not impossible for such an awful twist to these cases, but its just not adding up.
Thefinding of the blood and the reports of the analysis of that blood was said to lead an arrest very soon, why then are they focusing on Kate McCann?

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expatinscotland · 07/09/2007 10:11

Too right, Tiger, don't think we'll ever know.

Who killed JonBenet Ramsay sort of thing.

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