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OMG, Kate McCann is expected to be formally declared as a SUSPECT???!!!

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haychee · 07/09/2007 08:30

I was watching the news last night re Kate McCanns requestioning by the Portuguese Police. I have updated on the events this morning and it appears she will be declared as a SUSPECT today. Im shocked about this, what do you all think? Surely she didnt have anything to do with it?

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HorseyWoman · 07/09/2007 13:35

Anyone who believes that in these cases parents are always innocent, may also have a screw loose, and indeed be a little naive. I have no opinion either way as I do not have enough information/knowledge about this to make a solid prediction of the conclusion of the case; but to label those who believe it POSSIBLE she could have done it, as having a screw loose, is IMO a bit cheeky, especially seeing as how you are making an opinion-based judgement by saying that she definitely did not do it.

To the OP: I believe that the formal suspect status is to protect her, and also to help police as they can ask more questions; but it's also now being said that her solicitor has warned her she could be charged soon. On one hand, I don't think they could charge her without substantial evidence (and they have had a while to get evidence together, plus help from British Police). On the other hand, I feel the Portuguese Police are definitely eager to frame someone. With the involvement of the British Police, though, I can't see that they would 'frame' an innocent person unless for good reason (ie, suspicion of guilt). This is why I am unable to make any judgements: we don't know what the police are thinking or what is happening over there right now.

A couple of weeks ago the police asked the McCanns to stay in Portugal and told them it would be worth their while as they were close to concluding the case. They will have known back then who they wanted to frame/had evidence to frame, so it is very clever maipulation that stopped the McCanns going back to the UK.

I think people are just struggling to believe how a doctor (yes, a doctor - someone who is supposed to preserve life and have a caring disposition and desire to heal), who tried so hard to have children, could do this to their child, if she is indeed guilty (which no one knows apart from them and the police).

PSCMUM · 07/09/2007 13:36

I'm sure any on eof us could do a better job than the current lot of clowns investigating! Just read statement from the McCAnn's spokesperson who said that when Gerry and Kate's fingerprints were taken, they were taken so badly by the police officer, that they had to be taken again the next day as the first lot were useless. We have police who cannot even take fingerpirnts investigating. just tha fact they might charge her adds weight to my feeling that this is wrong!

dellgirl13 · 07/09/2007 13:37

i am not surprised by this news i have been suspicious of them all along. it is a horrible thing to think but parents do kill their children. whether accidental or on purpose you only have to see toadays headlines. from the beginning i have questioned there reactions, campaign etc. nothing about the story makes sense (what we hear)also the fact that they are well educated and work in that field gives them a huge advantage of 'covering up an accidental death' i know this will upset people i am not coldhearted i have 5 children of my own. children are vulnerable wherever they are and we should never leave them alone in a building where not only they could be abducted but wake up and be scared and wander out looking for you or even hurt themselves and no one there to help.

HorribleHorace · 07/09/2007 13:37

i just can not see how it can be so. where are they/she meant to have kept Madeleine's body? how did they/she dispose of the body when the media were already following their every move?

Is Kate meant to have done this with no involvment from Gerry? it is simply absurd imo.

PSCMUM · 07/09/2007 13:37

i think kate knows she's not guilty. I think the police haven't got a clue.

PSCMUM · 07/09/2007 13:39

actually yes horrible horace, i agree with you - it just sounds physically impossible for them to have been hanging around with Madeleine's bleeding body hidden somewhere, only to move it in a hire car 3 weeks later without the international media who were camped on their doorstep desperate for a story noticing. totally ridiculous

Beenleigh · 07/09/2007 13:40

ah bollocks ps, of course I wouldn't harm my children in any way, none of us would, but that isn;t what I'm saying. I'm clearly saying that Kate McGann didn;t do it, of course she didn;'t, not that I find it incomprehensible or anything. She didn't do it, and you doubters will be proved wrong in time.
Not bothering to read anymore on this thread. It's crap.

morethanmum · 07/09/2007 13:40

Don't want to be rude. But, don't you think McCann spokesperson/ family may have vested interest in keeping up impression that all fault lies with portugese police? After all, if I was being paid by someone/ was friends with someone I would probably say stuff to show them as squeaky clean and victims.

ELF1981 · 07/09/2007 13:41

PhoenixSongbird - your post is so right. It is the same as any horrible story, you automatically think stranger, as that sits more comfortably than to imagine that a loving family could do something horrible to their flesh and blood

HorseyWoman · 07/09/2007 13:41

PSCMUM: Maybe going 'over and above what anyone else has done before' is some of what alerted the police to her lack of innocence. Don't know.

PhoenixSongbird · 07/09/2007 13:41

Yeah, the parents managing to move the 'body' 25 days later without being seen by the press isn't entirely convincing. Bit of a coincidence if they happened to have hired the same car as the abductor/murderer, though.

mytwopenceworth · 07/09/2007 13:42

Just watching the news, kate's sister in law has made a statement that kate is to be charged with the accidental death of Madeline.

whiskeyandbeer · 07/09/2007 13:42

"but what are the actual 'holes' you refer to whiskeyandbeer?"

as i've said without being privy to the ins and outs of the investigation i have relied on nespapers etc which are all going to be obviously biased and loose with the facts. i tried to qualify this as best i could, i don't know who was involved and i'm not claiming it was either parent just that i thought they should have been investigated at the start to rule them out.
the holes i refer to mainly concern the statements regarding the night in question that were originally touted as "facts" to the public. how far the restaurant was from the room, that they could see the room, the length of time they spent without checking back on them. the stonewall "fact" that the room was broken into and madeline "snatched" from the room when at the time a lot of police reports and criminal investigators actually believe madeline may have left the room herself. i seem to recall something about a dodgy screen door being forced in being debunked weeks after the incident.
as i said with no access to the official investigation none of us can know what actually has happened and are following biased media outlets who will paint it their own way and as such we get conflicting reports.
all i am saying is that all avenues of suspicion should be examined.

HorribleHorace · 07/09/2007 13:43

may sound slightly far fetched but aren't there other ways of transferring blood? like if they had put a pushchair in the boot which may have had blood on it from being in the apartment? or shoes/beach stuff which could have for some reason got tiny bits of blood on? i don't know really but i do really, really feel from the bottom of my heart that this is wrong.

spinspinsugar · 07/09/2007 13:44

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orangehead · 07/09/2007 13:44

The only people who knows if they are involved or innocent is the mccanns themselves. i dont feel particulary shocked or surprised by this as i dont know them. i persume people feel they are innocent because thet are madelines parents, but since when did being biological parents mean u must b good parents. unfortunely i know from personal exp that biology can mean sh** when it comes to parenting and being good at it, as well as it being proven in other cases where parents have been known to hurt there children. It also been shown in other cases that 'bad' people comes from all walks of lives and professions and dont have signs on they backs saying 'child abuser'.surely people arent that naive.Im not saying at all they did it but we dont know. At the same time if they are innocent to be intergated is awful after all they have been through

beenleigh, why are u so definite? I can only see 2 ways u r so def if either u were there at the time so know exactly what happened or u know who did do it either u should go 2 the police

PSCMUM · 07/09/2007 13:44

forensics aren't conclusive anyway. it all sounds too bonkers for me. And what about the man seen with a child on the night i question walking in the area in question - he has never come forward. I know I'm probably being really emotional about this, but I just feel so sad for the parents, i know that police get things wrong all the time, and that often the perception is that forensics are some kind of biblical proof of everything, but often they are not, often they are wrong, often there is cross contamination, often there are other explanations. She didn't do it. I am sure of it, and I think she is out fellow mum and we should be supporting her and ger family through this terrible ordeal in any way we can.

PhoenixSongbird · 07/09/2007 13:45

oops, couple of x-posts about the body moving thing there.

beenleigh, I'm so proud, I've never posted 'bollocks' before. this is quite a moment for me.

bouncy · 07/09/2007 13:45

Could be that there was a tiny trace on a pair of shoes that got transfered into the car.

We don't know many details about it, so we don't know.

I am keeping an open mind. Nobody knows what went on yet, so noone can say they definately didn't, or did do it.

HorseyWoman · 07/09/2007 13:47

The fact her sister-in-law has now made a statement and saying she will be charged, does actually make me feel sick. Accidental death is a lot different matter. Very sad.

PSCMUM · 07/09/2007 13:47

o ok whiskey and beer, so you dont actually have any holes in their story to point to, you just feel generally it hasn't been inveistgated well enough. Well, we can agree on that!

IS anyone near a TV - whats this about accidental death?

LaCerbiatta · 07/09/2007 13:48

Well PSCMUM, why don't you fly over there and offer your services to the police, being the 'lot of clowns' they are I'm sure they'll happily accept.
FYI, the success rate at solving violent crime in the UK is only 2% greater than in Portugal, considering the abysmal difference in resouces and experience I would say they're pretty competent!

PhoenixSongbird · 07/09/2007 13:48

I know this is grim, but how much blood in the flat and the car are we talking about? A tiny trace wouldn't necessarily mean much.

HorseyWoman · 07/09/2007 13:48

Do you think that 'man' could have been Gerry? Or that the friends who saw the 'man' may be fabricating it?

HorribleHorace · 07/09/2007 13:50

the only way i can see this as a possibility is if the whole party were aware of it and the whole statement about the man carrying the child was a fabrication. I just can not believe that a whole group of well educated, British parents would lie. So basically, the only way this could possibly be so is if Madeliene's body was disposed of that night, and what transferred the blood into the boot was her clothes rather than her body.

(I still think they are very, very wrong though)

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