The suspect bomb in London.... but this comment really annoyed me. It feels vaguely racist and yet I am not sure it is..

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All options, including the Irish, are open at this stage," said the source.

I'm not Lynching him (fine Irish term that) but DC should mind what he says, I have never felt moved to be bothered to take offense at his often offensive posts before. I suspect that if you were being tarred with the terrorism brush you would think differently.

steady. We don't know if DC has seen a lot of shit, whatever that means. His pain (sick) is no excuse to be condemnatory of an entire nation/race. At the mo. he appears, to me, to be pretty pig-headed and keen to be unpleasant. Not much else than that

My father is Irish and he, as a small boy, was taken to see bombs drop on England whilst those around him partied. He now hates the Irish too.

I don't condone what he or DC says, but after their experiences I can understand why.

Reading what DC has written, I'm sorry but it's very tame. I read your responses to him first and I would say that you lot are more offensive to him, personally offensive. He has made comments that could be taken as racist, vaguely, but he's hardly in the same league as Bernard Manning is he?

That doesn't make it okay, Rhu, to write stuff like that on MN.

Sorry, but I don't think that does.

And he's well aware of that.

I admire your posts, Rhubs, but much less so here. Not being BM is a lessening of a compliment.

Time to be offski. Lots of heat, little light.

Oh look I for one am totally fucking sick of how bashing the Irish is allowed on mn. Even the politically correct of you seem to think that it is ok to make blatantly racist remarks. It really, really pisses me off.

I agree with Rhubarb. You really should listen to yourselves. He spoke from experience, which is more than the rest of you do. You hold your perceptions of 'racism' far more vehemently than he has expressed his hatred of his upbringing.

By extension, of course, this make me a racist. This is how puerile the whole argument becomes.

I am not saying it is right, I am asking that you try to be understand and react less hysterically. I DO NOT condone his comments but I do understand where they have come from.

I don't think that insulting him in return will do anyone any favours.

It's not insulting him to point out that writing that Irish people deserve to be portrayed as racists in the media is offensive and totally uncalled for.

Desiderata you know nothing about me or where I come from or what I have experienced.

This is going nowhere. Wish I had never started the frigging thread. The BBC comment was IMO racist, but if I had known that all I was doing was giving DC a platform for his xenophobia I would not have bothered.

ditto from me Carmen.....nothing desi.

Thanks Carmenere you saved me a post.

Asking if he has had his medication? Is that necessary?

Forget it. Obviously I too am racist towards the Irish now too.

I didn't address you, Carmenere.

I dislike the hysteria, the lack of understanding of someone else's pain. Of course dc shouldn't have written that, and his comment in an open forum cannot be condoned, but you're all so vicious about it.

It's depressing, it truly is.

I repeat, take out 'the Irish'.

Substitute 'blacks' 'Pakistanis' 'gays', etc.

Sound offensive?

That's because it is.

The medication jibe was unkind but I was angry.

I apologise for that comment. I do not and will not apologise for being tarred with the same brush as paramilitaries.

Now perhaps DC would care to come back and moderate his comments.

K, this is like teaching a dog to read . . .

When I see the violence in Oldham, when I read about white children being spat on and white youths being beaten to a pulp, if one of those victims made the same comments, I would not agree with it but I would understand why they felt that way.

Is that so bad?

NO ONE is saying it is bad! But that is seen as offensive and unacceptable in this forum to spew racist comments like that about it or anything else.

You know DC is not exactly a sympathetic character on mn. I don't know whether you have noticed but most of the time he tries to inflame people. Of course, if he has experienced a tragedy in his life that is a very sad thing but does in no way excuse the vileness with which he blamed 'the Irish' for the terrorism which affected him. Yes some Irish people commited atrocities, lots of them would consider themselves to be British not Irish btw, but it was not 'the Irish' who are responsible for the bombs today or any in the past. It is a small amount of fucking lunatics.

i reckon those two bombs were made by some loony from luton or whereabouts. it's coming up to the july bombing anniversary isn't it

Nor do they or any other nation as a whole deserve to be aligned in the media as racist terrorists.

But there you go . . . I've been banging on about how racist and bigotted the BBC are for years like a fucking Cassandra.

They can not be as bad as the Daily Express are/were.