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Schoolgirl fights for right to wear 'chastity ring'

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lyrasdaemon · 22/06/2007 13:34

A 16 year-old girl is going to the High Court to gain the right to wear her 'chastity ring' at school. Read more here.

IMHO, this girl hasn't got a leg to stand on. The 'chastity ring' is not a Christian symbol, it is a symbol of a pledge made to remain sexually inactive until marriage, a pledge which can be made by those of all faiths and none. As the ring is not a uniquely Christian symbol, the girl's religious beliefs are not being discriminated against by being told she cannot wear it. For this very simple reason, the High Court should chuck out this case worthwith and tell the girl to get stuffed!!!

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UnquietDad · 22/06/2007 14:44

OrmIrian - DW used to give a lift to a Christian guy who was very judgemental about people going to pubs. Always called it "going drinking."

louii - just search for "BUMSEX"! I'm sure it's still in active convos.

UnquietDad · 22/06/2007 14:45

Shiny - she's not THAT much of a munter!!

katelyle · 22/06/2007 14:45

Another example of children being exploited by grown ups to front their cause. And another example of creepy American right wing fundamentalist thinking invading this country.

I must learn not to sit on the fence.

sniff · 22/06/2007 14:46

have you seen the web site its a bit scary to be honest as much as I wouldnt like my children to sleep around I am not sure i would like them to do this programme either

UnquietDad · 22/06/2007 14:46

mb "The SRT website promotes 'second chance virginity' as well. Which is quite a neat trick."

reminds me of Anna in "This Life": "Ah havnae had sex in so long ah think mah hymen's grown back"

crazylazydaisy · 22/06/2007 14:54

Pushed into it by her parents at her age? Wow- respect to them then! Cant even get mine to tidy her bloomin room.

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 22/06/2007 15:02

She's not a munter, no, but she hardly appears as a "goer" either (a good thing I'm sure!) She has the "Saffy" (AbFab) look about her, rendering the ring uneccessary. And the whole hoo-har a farce!

It's just attention seeking. The girl, because she is a teenager, the parents because they are bible bashers.

Blandmum · 22/06/2007 15:31

Some info quoted on a BBC website on the effectivness of this sort of thing

'Study of 12,000 aged 12 to 18
Six years on, 99% of non-pledgers had sex before marriage
So too did 88% of pledgers
Pledgers first had sex an average of 18 months later
Both had similar rates of STDs
Pledgers 'much less likely' to use contraception
Columbia University study '

Very interested that 'Pledgers' are less likely to use contraception. Possibly due to the feeling that if they plan to have sex, and practice contraception, they are 'wrong' but if they just have unprotected sex they 'Couldn't help themselves' and 'just got carried away'

Which will give rise to Swap on MN. 'Will swap used siver chastity ring for set of new born clothes'

handlemecarefully · 22/06/2007 15:35

Parp! at use of 'munter' and catty remarks

edam · 22/06/2007 15:37

LOL at crazylazydaisy! And at MB's purported swap.

Agree it's bloody dangerous to discourage young people from using contraception esp. condoms.

Adults have always tried to control the sexuality of children, esp. teenage girls. Very unhealthy psychological stuff going on, I suspect. And unworkable - the drive to reproduce is innate and far stronger than social controls. Even in the days before contraception when sex outside marriage was seen as a sin...

slug · 22/06/2007 15:45

I just wonder why she needs to wear her silver ring to school. I could understand it if there were boys there that she wanted to advertise her 'pure' status to. But it's a girls school.

Blandmum · 22/06/2007 15:53

beacuse she wants to 'show off', be seen as 'special' and assert her 'rights'.

Forgetting tat she aslo has a responsibility to follow the school uniform code

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 22/06/2007 15:56

PARP! at the use of PARP! I only used "munter" because I responding to UQD's use of it. But yes I'm feel "catty" today. Wanna make something of it?

Crotchety · 22/06/2007 16:12

What bothers me is the claim that it "contravenes her human rights". When you see some of the things that really are a contravention of human rights that go on in this world I wish she and her family would consider tranferring their energies into trying to bring some justice in those directions rather than making this into some sort of tenuous show case.

Flamesparrow · 22/06/2007 16:17

Not read, but tis cr*p.

No-one else can wear rings, wtf should she.

If she wants to remain a virgin then keep her legs crossed, she doesn't have to tell the world.

michie40 · 22/06/2007 16:32

I think the school is absolutely right to ban the piece of jewellrey.
IMO religion should stay out of peoples sex lives. Sex is something to be enjoyed and not something to be religious about. People should be encouraged to take responsability for the conseqences as well but I don't think young people should be encouraged to practice abstinance - as this will never work.
Thats my opinion anyway.

UnquietDad · 22/06/2007 16:42

Well, technically if abstinence doesn't work then it's no longer abstinence. It works for as long as you abstain.

Having said that, it's more sensible to educate young people about the potential consequences of sex than get them to be "promise-keepers".

I do think this is a ridiculous case, though. The school has a rule. It needs to be the same rule for everyone. "End Of" (said with hand held up, palm flat, so that da kidz get what you mean).

SueBaroo · 22/06/2007 17:10

Well, I'm a Christian and this winds me up no end. I'm sick to death of Christians trying to bring stupid cases like this about 'symbols' and what have you. All it does is make people look petty and litigous. And then they'll have a whine about being 'persecuted' for their beliefs, which is such a crock. Try getting away with that petty gadfly crap in North Korea, people.

I've got no problem with abstinence until marriage, but I do agree with whoever suggested that this looks very like a publicity attempt by her parents, which is frankly shameful. So annoying.

paulaplumpbottom · 22/06/2007 17:13

I do think abstinance can work but I think if the school has a rule then she should stick to it. There is nothing in the Christian Faith that says that you have to wear a chasity ring.

Tommy · 22/06/2007 17:23

makes me fume, this.

what a waste of money and energy when all aroubd the world people's human rights are really being violated

wants her 15 mins of fame I guess....

Aloha · 22/06/2007 17:23

Support from Tebbit and Widdecombe...nuff said, methinks.

OrmIrian · 22/06/2007 18:11

I think she is an attention seeker and its fuss about nothing. But why is it so unhealthy to want to remain celibate until marriage. It often seems that any sexual choices are acceptable, apart from the one to not bother.

paulaplumpbottom · 22/06/2007 18:17

Well put

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 22/06/2007 18:20

Well.. I always think its a bit impractical.. you could end up marrying someone with whom you are rather sexually imcompatiable and have to divorce him on that basis (which your religion, in view of the abstinence may well frown upon) or, worse, resign yourself to a lifetime of thinking of England and surveying the artex!

paulaplumpbottom · 22/06/2007 18:21

Who would divorce someone because of Bad sex? Thats ridiculous. Don't people get married because they love eachother and want to spend their lives together. They used to anyway