Baby girl died after being left in car seat for 15 hours by parents

[greendale17]

This case pretty shocking. Baby girl died after being left in a car seat in a hotel room alone with 2 other children under 2 whilst their parents were drinking in the bar.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2018/08/30/baby-girl-died-after-being-left-in-car-seat-for-15-hours-by-drunk-parents-7897196/amp/

I was shocked to read the following points-

-The seven children the mum has given birth to since June 2015, only four have survived longer than 16 months
-Both the mum and the dad, a violent offender released from a 30-month jail stint for robbery just before the relationship started, were known to social services.
-Both parents have known alcohol issues
-Domestic violence was suspected
-Hospital called the Police when the mother turned up to her 20 week scan drunk

How can they be allowed to still keep their remaining children? Why were they not prosecuted?

Reported in the news today although it happened in 2016.

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Baby girl died after being left in car seat for 15 hours by parents

I am astounded by the fact that these people were allowed to keep their children

This is heartbreaking.

Just horrendous.

I was shocked, but the children had high/complex needs. Until this case, they hadn't actually done anything wrong. I'm not convinced about the details of that article. I know there were multiples, but the numbers don't quite add up. And there are older children as well.

This is just tragic though. Such ignorance about Car seats. I blame the travel sets.

I’m a bit confused to be honest by the article. The little girl didn’t die from being in the car seat?

It’s so awful though and those children deserve so much better. Sounds like the parents need a huge amount of support

the parents need shooting and the kids need to be taken away.
so much time and money is spent on keeping children iun family situations that are just bad and unsafe.
poor poor children.

That is so awful

why were they sleeping in car seats? and they also had complex needs, twins, probably born early, so perhaps they needed to sleep more upright?

authorities were aware of alcohol use but stood down as thorities were aware mum and dad both struggled with alcohol, but early interventions were stood down as the mum refused permission for help.
That can;t be right, just stand down the interventions? and what?

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I never get why people who can't be bothered to look after their children or make proper arrangements keep having them.

The father sounds a catch

In reality Her alcohol use wasn’t as much of a concern as the article indicates according to the SCR.

the serious case review notes are definitely better to read than the Metro link, more balanced, although you do have to read between the lines - what a wicked world
and so much tip toeing around
so depressing

Posted too soon- and she had recently been through a number of incredibly traumatic events which happened a number of years after the early interventions stood down.

it does seem mainly to be regarding the maternal alcohol use

the serious case review is only to ensure all authorities have worked properly

Whatevee we think, it has happened - and it will keep happening until we change how we value young children, women and families.

It is very easy as a person of great privilege to shudder in horror at these people but they too were innocent and beautiful at birth - what on earth happened and what can each of us do to help prevent it happening again?

At a guess I'd say healthcare, housing, education and wider community support systems could make a difference.

agree pickle

This is tragic.
Just awful.
Although I used to let my baby sleep all night in it's carseat, 15 years ago, because he slept better. But I get that's not the point.
Some people just have totally shit circumstances.

provided her three older children consistently good enough parenting

This is the sentence that enrages me.
I am being very careful about what I say here...

I have experience of families where their parenting is deemed' good enough' or they are 'trying their best', when to all the people working with the children on a daily basis, it is very apparent the best was nowhere near good enough.

If it is true that the mother turned up to a 20 week appointment drunk, then surely action should have been taken at this point?

Was the alcohol intake responsible for the premature births and complex needs?

When i read the serious case review the picture I see is of a chaotic, unsafe household.

The advice on car seats has changed though, onetime. Because very small babies are at risk of suffocation I think the advice has been changed to two hours in a car seat.

Anyone with a shred of common sense would have known that this was not a safe situation. Tragic that several of their children hardly survived infancy. Seven children born since June 2015. Did I read that correctly.

So sad

Do take the time to read the case review.

The older children had been well cared for and were doing well at school. The first twin death was certainly not the mum's fault but clearly had traumatised the mum. They hadn't set out to use car seats but couldn't get cots up the stairs. They went to the hotel bar but checked kids every 30 mins. The child was vulnerable due to low weight but mum didn't know how to manage that.

Not making excuses but it's a complex case for sure.

@crunchtime

2 years ago She was pregnant with twins by a new partner whose family hated her and according to her harassed, threatened and beat her up.

She had twin 1&2, and twin 1 died from prematurity. For the same reasons twin 2 had highly complex needs

In the month following twin 1s death,whilst they were grieving a very close friend (described as her only support, as she pretty much grew up in care) died. This seems to be when things started spiralling due to depression and grief.

10 months later she had twins 3 &4 , again prematurely. They were again in protracted Neo natal care away from home.

On the holiday twin 3 died in the room.

In the months following this twin 2 died from an infection.

They are the 3 children under 16 months who “died in her care” - not quite as ominous and mysterious as the trashy article claimed is it?

No they don’t seem like good parents, there is no denying that. But they were in an extremely complex situation, one most of us will never have to deal with. How you can be enraged that, I have no idea really.