Baby girl died after being left in car seat for 15 hours by parents

[greendale17]

This case pretty shocking. Baby girl died after being left in a car seat in a hotel room alone with 2 other children under 2 whilst their parents were drinking in the bar.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2018/08/30/baby-girl-died-after-being-left-in-car-seat-for-15-hours-by-drunk-parents-7897196/amp/

I was shocked to read the following points-

-The seven children the mum has given birth to since June 2015, only four have survived longer than 16 months
-Both the mum and the dad, a violent offender released from a 30-month jail stint for robbery just before the relationship started, were known to social services.
-Both parents have known alcohol issues
-Domestic violence was suspected
-Hospital called the Police when the mother turned up to her 20 week scan drunk

How can they be allowed to still keep their remaining children? Why were they not prosecuted?

Reported in the news today although it happened in 2016.

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Baby girl died after being left in car seat for 15 hours by parents

I am astounded by the fact that these people were allowed to keep their children

yes and the father was hidden

Can someone post a link to the serious case review please? Can't see it

But the child couldve died in the cot instead. There is no indication the car seat contributed to the death

Do you all feel sorry for the father? No? Why not?

Both parents are responsible here.

Why do we infantilise women in these situations? Is it because we cannot get our heads round the idea that some women are not good parents? It's internalised misogyny to assume that all women are nurturing and lovely.

Some are not. Some have kids without a thought.

But the child couldve died in the cot instead. There is no indication the car seat contributed to the death

Is it easy to prove either way? Before they went away they were told to not let the babies be in their car seats for more than 2 hours, and yet they let them sleep in them overnight.

I can’t see her refusing help. I can see a large number of support contacts made between the death of the first twin and the birth/ death of the second. The mother was receiving treatment for depression and the father for alcohol addiction during this time.

I suppose I do feel sorry for the father, He seems like an unpleasant man but has had a horrible home life and severe mental health issues. I don’t tend to have much empathy for men though so haven’t even really thought about him whilst replying to the thread

They both sound unpleasant characters. Lots of people have a shitty start in life. Most still manage to become reasonable human beings.

Can't imagine how the surviving twin will feel when they're old enough to understand.

Will the cycle continue I wonder? Hope not, it's a litany of pointless, human misery.

Most still manage to become reasonable human beings.

I’m not sure this is true actually

You seem very angry

But the child couldve died in the cot instead. There is no indication the car seat contributed to the death

At least the child's airways would be positioned correctly to allow it to breath freely

there is indication that the Car Seat was at fault, as well as under feeding, from what I can glean

Child neglect is something worth getting angry over, wouldn't you say?

SealSong scroll down this BBC article and click on the bold independent report. The whole document will download.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-manchester-45361276

Ultimately, parents
could not follow through on the plans to ensure Child M could sleep safely in the hotel and made the
choice to place Child M to sleep in a car seat. This is one of the most significant risk factors in sudden
infant death.

I can’t see any indication the car seat was implicated. The babies death is unexplained. No one knows what happened

i just quoted it glide, copied and pasted the relevant sentence,

So the baby was taken out and fed, not left in the car seat untouched for 14 hours.

Yes, the care was inadequate. I had a prem baby and had to set an alarm for feeds as the baby wasn't mature enough to cry with hunger. They take such tiny amounts, that a missed feed may not seem like a big deal. Of course it's actually a huge deal, but I can imagine my DH thinking that missing 3oz in 24hrs wouldn't be a problem.

I feel less sorry for the dad because he has a violent history and he didn't carry the babies, breast feed them, have related hormone surges etc.

Copied it from where? I can’t see anything to that effect in the SCR

page 14 glide

Oh yes I see. I don’t read it like that at all I’m afraid- there are a number of factors that made the baby at higher risk of unexpected death, all of which were mentioned in the report. They still don’t know what contributed and what didn’t

At least the BBC coverage is less shocking

Extract taken from page 32/44 places significant contribution of blame towards the car seat being used for prolonged period

134. Whilst the review has identified areas of multi-agency practice that could be strengthened, it has not identified any serious omission in practice that contributed to the death of Child M. Ultimately, parents could not follow through on the plans to ensure Child M could sleep safely in the hotel and made the choice to place Child M to sleep in a car seat. This is one of the most significant risk factors in sudden infant death.

Umm the numbers don't add up
. How can someone give birth to 7 children since 2015?

She hasn’t given birth to 7 children since 2015

She's had seven children, and 3 have died since 2015.

Several problems here as I can see. Alcohol abuse is up the top of the list and while I understand the mother may be suffering from depression substance abuse when you are looking after kids is not ok. There should have been very comprehensive supervision regardless of whether the mother wanted it or not. Leaving a very young baby in a car seat for all that time is not advised and if the cots were too heavy they should have found another way of getting them upstairs. Leaving them alone while they go down and drink is again not ok. Awful neglectful parents and they should not have been allowed to keep their other kids.