New thread to discuss the developments from the news for Madeleine Mccann

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I know the other thread got a bit out of hand but lets keep this one nice if possible.

I think it is good to discuss all that is happening in the news & also good to see peoples views on what is happening in the news.

The lastest i can see so far is that Madeleins parents want to keep focused on the finding of there daughter & want to keep this in the news they don't want things to turn on the police investigation & how it is being handled.

Mr & Mrs Mccann have also decided they want an E poster which they are going to be sending out through email to spread the news so that everyone, everywhere can look out for beautiful Madeleine.

They were asying on the news yesterday though that any outbuildings etc weren't searched as Portugese law doesn't alow it, so to be frank bit of a poor search

Yes Peachy - there was a clip on the news of some police searches and the officer said that if an outbuilding was locked they weren't allowed to force it open.

Madeleine's mum is beginning to look quite poorly I think. Poor woman.

I wonder how long they'll stay out there? I can see why they want to be, but I think I recall poeple like Sarah payne's Mum supporting other similarly- affected famillies in the past, at what point they switch from missing to assumed not coming back (and I pray to god its never) I don't know but I would think the type of support required will change then and if.

When discussing the differences between the ways in which the UK and Portuguese police authorities deal with the media, I think it is important to distinguish between the headline-seeking, newspaper-selling function (something the UK media is all too often guilty of) and the straightforward, useful, information-diffusing function.

With this in mind, I fail to see how circulating basic information about a missing child in the early stages of an investigation could possibly prejudice a potential suspect.

Didnt they refuse to take her seriosuly in the first few 'golden hours' as well? Or was that media hype?

What a nightmare for the parents. I can't begin to imagine.

Isn't it Madeleine's birthday tomorrow? i wonder how long they'd been planning on staying before this all started? And I wonder how Madeleine's brother and sister are coping with this.

It must be so hard to even think of coming home without her.

What's said there (got this from my mother who heard it from the neighbour, so not by any means official) is that the parents spent a long time looking around before calling the police.

As fro the police not believing her at the beginning, well unfortunately that's a bit like me going to the GP complaining of a small migraine and they saying oh you must have a brain tumour let me send you for a scan asap!

`before you all jump on me for the analogy, I only mean by this, as I've posted before, that there is no history of a crime like this in Portugal.

actually I don't think that the law regarding searching property is that much different over here. If police were searching a street for example, they certainly wouldn't have open authority to break into and enter any house that was locked without a warrant.

OH no
i am warrant queen.
signed two this morning

No tehy an't, I think the difference was that (in my ind) the police weren't tracking down owevers and asking persmission / following up, whereas one would hope that tehy would here.

I agree wannaBe - I would hope they would go back and get permission to search anything iffy.

But (and again purely from media) wasn't there a case not that long ago where the aprents claimed similar but Mum was convicted in the absence of a body?

not saying whether guilty or not- have no idea- but surely that would have given them procedural 'practice' or experience?

there have definitely been cases where people have been convicted even though no body was ever found. Not sure what kind of evidence would need to be submitted then though.

No the evidence would be different, but iirc this Mum claimed it was same scenario- so i am presuming they would have conducted searches / seen ptential failures in system previously?

Apaprently portugal has 10.7 million inhabitants

so if as they say child abuse doesn't exist there, then either thy're hiding it very well or ignoring it completely

Oh there's lots of experience in child abuse and abduction, but it usually happens within the family. So their lack of procedural experience was in dealing with a situation in which they'd have to secure the borders and consider international peadophile networks. That's what they probably weren't prepared for and took them too long to consider.

You lot are so arrogant, really! even though some may agree credit should be given for their efforts and they should be respected for their way of doing things, it just keeps coming up that here is so much better adn how good that brittish officers went there to show them how it's done and if it was here it would have been done differently. You don't have the best record of finding lost children you know? Portugal actually has a better record, when you loook at the numbers of children lost and found (saw these numbers yesterday and will post them when I manage to find them again). The police force there aren't like those in a small third world country with a sheriff and a few officers, like someone very kindly put it sometime beofore in this thread.

But more than people in general I'm amazed at the journalist's arrogance. I don't want to repeat myself, but just as an example I was literally gob smacked that the british press were reporting as breaking news from the second press conference that interpol and europol were involved. This had been said in the first one, 3 days before, probably just not in english so they just missed it. How is it possible that the press is not using interpreters to follow the investigation??? Why should the portuguese police have to do press conferences in english??? They're doing out of kindness and respect but the journalists in their arrogance take it for granted and expect it to be exact and complete. It's actually a bit sad I think

End of rant and end of posting. I've had enough now.

you kNOW interpolisnt a poice force dont oy
jsut an infornmation sharing hting
theres no kidn of OFFICERS

or did the mument crime busters not knwo that

I'm sorry Littlemouse, is your post directed at me?

no tuga I think it was directed at those who seem to know how it all should be done.

Is Little Mouse Dutch? Or just typing double-dutch? Difficult to read thru' the typos.

yes yes she is dutch - she lives in Amsterdam, in a lovely converted windmill

A converted windmill with fishscales on, if you get my drift...

Yes the fishiness was pungent

Much like three week old sardines

(I expect obv, don't have lots in my fridge LOL)