who are PROPER female role models

[Porcupine]

for your dds? not farking JOran please

Helena Kennedy

Susan Greenfield

ME!

samantha fox

God the very term makes me cringe.
So overused with so little thought.

Maya Angelou

I'm crap at remembering names but I would say ordinary women who have made a real difference. That woman in London who started up that charity helping disadvantaged london children, there is also a woman who is often in the media who has adopted lots of children with special needs who otherwise would be in care, there is another woman (God, I wish I could remember names) who has terminal cancer and has raised loads of money for charity by competing in the London marathon, Great North run etc. Not that I have any dd's.

Condeleeeeeeeeeeeeeeza Rice

ignore the politics

brainy and powerful

(and does good shoes)

No one in the Media thats for sure.

Probably all the females in my family.

who are the first two mentioned by lulumama?

There are few positive female role models in the media.
I like Anita Roddick
Esther Rantzen - foe her childline work
Margaret Beckett
Helen Mirren
Fiona Bruce
martha Kearney

during discussion on R4 this morning re: iconic status of Kate Moss - is it due to her never giving interviews, being -ahem- enigmatic? whereas other young women - say Zadie Smith - do talk intelligently about lots of topics and have pretty high profile.

dd1: what are they saying about KM?
me: oh that she doesn't give interviews. that's probably because she's not got anything interesting to say. her job is wearing clothes - that's all she does for a living, which isn't very interesting. the other lady - called Zadie - writes books and so has lots to say and people listen.

Ellen McArthur (think thats her name, the yachtswoman)
Jodie Foster
Anita Roddick
Kelly Holmes
Tanya Byron

Dont think any of them would be relevant to young females today....anyone under the age of 15 would probably choose someone from Girls Aloud.

Shami Chakrabarti, Civil Rights Campaigner
NOGOES - you are thinking of Camilla Batmanghelidjh, Founder Of Kids Company (she is amazing)
Anita Roddick
Emily Pankhurst
Aung San Suu Kyi

I don't have DDs but these are women who are/were trailblazers who i think are amazing and who i would want my DS to admire as well

kate Moss's new clothing range was on the ten o clock news FFS!
She is an overpaid druggy clothes horse.

helena kennedy is qc, bit of a rent a quote lawyer but v good (i've met her husband who's a surgeon, bit of an alphafamily)

susan greenfield is a neuroscientist who's also in the house of lords. i've met her too

Ahh yes Ellen Mcarthur. Shes a good one. I like her.

Kate Moss' new line is crappola.

i don't need to look at kate moss's clothes to know they'll be cheap-looking, rubbishy nonsense.

god none of em

me

oh ok

paula yates and km peyton

they were mine anyway (poor old paula before all the drugs shit obv)

i think good proper role models in the sense that they hold themselves well, get on with things without getting all drama-queen-o-poor-me, balance a lot of things, negotiate tricky finances are MUMS-eg-regular-hard-working-women-who-dont-get-enough-positive-praise-for-trying-to-do-best-by-their-children

paula yates was dull even before the drugs set in.

great clothes though

funny too