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cjt110 · 24/07/2017 12:59

This is a thread following the legal and ethical questions raised by the recent court case involving Charlie Gard.

Please could we refrain from insulting or otherwise "bashing" his parents. It isn't in the spirit of Mumsnet and will get the threads removed.

Please could we also remember that at the heart of this case is a terminally ill baby and his heartbroken parents. There are those participating in and watching this thread for whom these issues are painful. Please let's try and be mindful of them when we post. This isn't a place for name calling or trivialising the very real pain they feel. Many parents of severely disabled children are on here.

Lastly, here are some hopefully useful reference points of facts surrounding the case.

13 July GOSH position statement on latest hearing (includes update on Charlie's condition):
www.gosh.nhs.uk/file/23611/download?token=aTPZchww

7 July GOSH statement on Charlie:
www.gosh.nhs.uk/news/latest-press-releases/latest-statement-charlie-gard

June 2017 Supreme Court decision:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6rPmvGlNhA&app=desktop

May 2017 Court of Appeal Decision:
www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2017/410.html

April 2017 High Court Decision:
www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2017/972.html

GOSH FAQ page on Charlie:
www.gosh.nhs.uk/frequently-asked-questions-about-charlie-gard-court-case

Timeline so far

August 4, 2016 Charlie born 8lb 3oz to Connie Yates and Chris Gard.

October 2016 Tests reveal mitochondrial depletion syndrome.
Believed to be only 16th sufferer in the world of rare strain.

Autumn 2016 Miss Yates finds specialist in US testing nucleoside therapy, but it has never been tried on Charlie’s rare type.

January Gosh doctors say drug would be futile because of irreversible brain damage. Parents contact US doctor.

March Gosh asks High Court to let Charlie die. Mr Justice Francis gives parents a month to make case for treatment. Daily Mail readers help raise £197,000 in days to help fly Charlie to US.

April Doctors say he is likely to be in pain. Judge rules Gosh should let him die.

May Court of Appeal upholds ruling. Parents appeal to Supreme Court.

June Supreme Court rejects appeal. On June 27, European judges back decision. Gosh gives parents more time with Charlie. Pope Francis intervenes, followed by Donald Trump on July 3.

July 7 Seven scientists hand Gosh fresh evidence showing higher survival chances.

July 10 Mr Justice Francis gives parents 48 hours to produce new evidence in case.

July 13 US specialist Dr Michio Hirano invited to London by High Court

July 17 Dr Hirano examines Charlie.

July 21 Court told scan results ‘very sad’.

Today, 24 July, High Court due to rule on the case, ten days before Charlie’s birthday.

OP posts:
teainbed · 24/07/2017 14:22

@therootoftheroot would the parents be in court if that was the case?

oakleaffy · 24/07/2017 14:22

live video??? what the heck? where is that?..would be easier than refreshing twitter all the time.

friendlysnakehere · 24/07/2017 14:22

I think the judge will announce that an agreement has been reached and the switch to palliative care will made

I do hope so, I also hope that he orders all the media hanging on stops and the CA shut down.

Then they can spend some time with Charlie in peace.

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 24/07/2017 14:22

I think so too - oh please can that be the case

QuimReaper · 24/07/2017 14:22

Does anyone understand what's going on with Alasdair Seton Marsden? I thought he was the family's spokesperson but in the news today they seem to be saying he isn't, and that they aren't approving his statements - does anyone know?

TheFairyCaravan · 24/07/2017 14:22

I can't get over that video. Wtf is the singing? They 'll be on the XFactor next!

samesorrystory · 24/07/2017 14:23

Maybe they still have to go through the process tea and also he might have reached that conclusion but of course the parents may not agree.

Sirzy · 24/07/2017 14:23

oak the live video is of the "rent a mob" outside the court.

LapinR0se · 24/07/2017 14:23

It's over.

friendlysnakehere · 24/07/2017 14:23

oakleaffy, no the CA one is truly awful, they seem to be treating it as a party.

jinglejanglejobs · 24/07/2017 14:23

Armstrong: time has run out for Charlie nad treatment cannot now offer chance of success

There's the answer.

GabsAlot · 24/07/2017 14:23

omg thyv withrawn

teainbed · 24/07/2017 14:23

Oh bless them.

cjt110 · 24/07/2017 14:23

@JoshuaRozenberg
Armstrong: time has run out for Charlie nad treatment cannot now offer chance of success.

@skyrobcatherall
Grant Armstrong for Charlie's family "sadly this case is now about time"

@JoshuaRozenberg
Armstrong recalled Macfarlane LJ's comments in CA.

OP posts:
OhUnpretentiousSpud · 24/07/2017 14:23

Wow....

Fancythat69 · 24/07/2017 14:23

It's over 😔 Poor Charlie, may he now finally rest with peace

TheCaptainsCat · 24/07/2017 14:23

Bless his parents.

summerbreezer · 24/07/2017 14:23

Oh thank god.

TheFairyCaravan · 24/07/2017 14:23

The parents have withdrawn the request to change the order.

jellypi3 · 24/07/2017 14:23

wow...just wow...

so sad at this. it's utterly heartbreaking.

cjt110 · 24/07/2017 14:24

@JoshuaRozenberg
Armstrong: time has run out for Charlie nad treatment cannot now offer chance of success. Have C&C conceded GOSH are correct?

OP posts:
MissHavishamsleftdaffodil · 24/07/2017 14:24

Oh God. Those poor people.

FlyingElbows · 24/07/2017 14:24

It's over. God love them.

straighttalker · 24/07/2017 14:24

Thank God.

I don't often say that.

But thank God.

GinSoakedTwitchyPony · 24/07/2017 14:24

And meanwhile their 'supporters' are outside the court laughing shrieking and dancing?

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