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Grenfell Tower The Aftermath Thread SIX.

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HelenaDove · 05/07/2017 19:46

I thought i would take the oppurtunity to start thread six as thread five is now coming to an end. Thanks Thanks to all those lost in the fire their survivors families friends and volunteers.

Link to thread five which also includes links to previous threads.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2959251-London-Fire-Grenfell-Tower-thread-five?pg=1

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HelenaDove · 27/08/2018 19:16

"Survivors of the Grenfell Tower fire have widened their campaign against the marginalisation of council tenants, raising concerns that others are being treated in the same way as they were before the disaster.

Nicholas Burton, whose wife, Pily, died as a result of the fire on 14 June 2017, and Edward Daffarn, who escaped from the 16th floor, are helping residents at nine council-owned tower blocks in Salford, Greater Manchester, that were refurbished using similar combustible cladding at the same time as Grenfell.
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They have heard claims from tenants that their concerns about safety were not being handled properly. After he visited the Pendleton estate and spoke to residents, Burton said: “It’s just like turning back the clock.”

Pendleton Together, the social landlord that looks after the blocks for Salford city council, has so far removed the lower three storeys of cladding on most of the blocks.

Residents understand that the project to replace the cladding and install sprinklers could take up to two years. They have warned they are losing sleep and are scared about the possibility of fire. Last month, Pendleton Together told inhabitants of Spruce Court, a 22-storey tower, that they must keep their windows closed until further notice because of problems
What we went through with the tenants management organisation and the council, they are going through similar difficulties,” said Burton. “They are not being listened to. After the tragedy of Grenfell, you would think people in authority would take a little bit more care in listening to their residents.”

Pendleton Together said it completely rejected any comparison to the situation at Grenfell Tower. A spokesman for the landlord said: “Pendleton Together remains open to discussing any concerns with residents and encourage reporting of them, via a dedicated email address set up for this purpose or through our normal customer reporting systems.”
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It said concerns had been raised only by a minority of tenants and that some of them were unfounded.

But anxiety among residents is running high. Leaseholders in two privately owned blocks in Manchester lost a property tribunal case which means they, rather than the freeholder Pemberstone, will have to pay the estimated £3m cost of replacing flammable cladding – about £10,000 per flat. The residents of Vallea Court and Cypress Place in the city’s Green Quarter have voiced fears that a fire at the base of their building could start a major blaze.

The blocks are among 474 residential buildings more than 18 metres tall across England and Wales thought to be wrapped in combustible cladding. Only 17 are known to have been completely fixed and there is continued uncertainty about when the rest will be made safe.

In the wake of the Grenfell fire, Theresa May voiced concern about tenants’ views being ignored. In a speech in March, the prime minister said “concerns not being acted on, voices not being listened to, needs being ignored” are “all too familiar to tenants in all kinds of homes across the country”.
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Elizabeth Okpo, a resident of Spruce Court, said the fact that combustible cladding was still in place was not the only problem. Fire alarms installed in flats which are supposed to alert the building’s security team did not always function properly and fire sounders on the landings were not loud enough for people in their flats to hear, so residents have slept through them.
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“There are children in the block on the 11th and 18th floors and we have people who are disabled on the 21st floor,” Okpo said. “These type of people are going to struggle to get down.

Residents had started to draw up a list of vulnerable neighbours so they could try to help people evacuate in the event of a fire, she said.

Pendleton Together said the alarms were set to the volume limit allowed under law in communal areas and there were 24-hour patrols by fire marshals with klaxons.

Okpo also claimed Pendleton Together had made it harder for residents to form an association by failing to provide access to the community room in their tower for meetings. The landlord said it offered Okpo an alternative room 650 metres from the tower.

“How we were treated and dismissed seems to be the same [as Grenfell],” Okpo said.

At Daffarn’s suggestion, Okpo has started a blog, Spruce Court Action. Daffarn was co-author of the Grenfell Action Blog that chronicled concerns about Kensington and Chelsea council, the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation and the 2014-16 refurbishment of Grenfell Tower.

Eight months before the fire, Daffarn and Francis O’Connor wrote that “only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord.

Burton was a member of the leaseholders association at Grenfell that raised multiple concerns about the the 2014-2016 refurbishment.

Other residents of the Salford towers have started a blog – Thorn and Pendleton Blog News – tracking their concerns.

“My heart is overwhelmed by the thought that Grenfell two is in the post,” said Burton. “There are hundreds of towers all over the country and people are not sleeping properly.”

• This article was amended on 24 August 2018 because an earlier version referred to Lendlease as the freeholder of Vallea Court and Cypress Place in Manchester’s Green Quarter. Lendlease sold the freehold to Pemberstone in 2015, and the tribunal was between Pemberstone and the leaseholders."

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HelenaDove · 27/08/2018 19:18

I posted some links to articles about what was going on with the tenants in Salford during their refurb in the early Grenfell threads while the fire was still going.

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HelenaDove · 11/09/2018 14:26

twitter.com/CassieMonroe19/status/1039193689275420677

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HelenaDove · 20/09/2018 20:28

www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/barne-barton-fire-flats-investigation-2006900

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www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2018-09-12/homeless-families-in-limbo-after-plymouth-tower-block-fire/

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HelenaDove · 20/09/2018 20:28

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HelenaDove · 22/09/2018 03:12

www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=4724

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HelenaDove · 26/09/2018 19:54

More on the Barne Barton fire Tenants told they still have to pay rent.......

www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/families-forced-out-homes-after-2042361

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HelenaDove · 26/09/2018 23:36

"The councils trying to use Grenfell as an excuse to clear estates
Becka Hudson 20 September 2018

Since a fire killed 72 people in London's Grenfell Tower, councils have been using safety concerns to try to move people out of housing estates.

Broadwater Farm Estate. By Iridescenti - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0.

It seemed, at least for a time after the Grenfell fire, that social housing was atop the political agenda. Housing was centred at party conferences, discussed in reams of media, and organisations from across the political spectrum issued announcements, green papers, and reports on the topic. Many argued that Grenfell must signal a turning point in how the UK houses people. Amidst this discussion, we were introduced to the fire’s likely causes. There were those named individuals, from councillors to contractors, and then there were its systemic roots. A deeply embedded ‘culture’ of neglect and dispossession: the ignoring of tenants, the arbitrary revocation of crucial safety law, and widespread social cleansing of blocks, estates and entire neighbourhoods under the guise of ‘regeneration’.

Ten days after the fire and one borough across, late one Friday night, thousands of estate residents were rushed from their homes into makeshift relief shelters. Safety checks by Camden council, issued in the aftermath of Grenfell, had found the Chalcots estate covered in similar flammable cladding. The sudden evacuation was widely criticised. Residents complained about the councils’ aggressive approach, their lack of communication and rehousing options and, even as late as March this year, their disregard for residents as revelations of further safety problems emerged. Residents’ confrontations with council leader Georgia Gould went viral. One featured a woman countering Gould’s assertion that safety was the council’s priority, pointing out “for this long now you’ve allowed them to live in this property that’s been dangerous – how?”. Back up in Chalcots’ towers, around 200 people refused to leave. For them, the chaos and lack of support in leaving posing a greater threat than staying put. As one such occupier told a journalist “It [seeing Grenfell] does make us want to leave, But [...] there’s nowhere to go, and they’re not looking to move us out anywhere convenient.”

Despite the media, the promises and the reports, these catch-22s persist in estates across the country. For one, many thousands of people continue to live in buildings coated in flammable cladding. Though the prime minister finally committed to funding the removal of unsafe cladding from social blocks this May, the process is partial, and slow. And when such insulation is removed, residents are presented with a new safety battle. As Ruth from the Safe Cladding and Insulation Now (SCIN) campaign explains: “One of the most widespread safety risks is lack of insulation, in a country where thousands die every winter because they can't afford to heat their homes. [...]” She argues that unless the cladding crisis is acted on soon, “given the current standards of building regulations and enforcement, we are likely to see basically sound old estates demolished and replaced with "modern" ones where residents are at serious risk from both cold, and overheating.”

Elsewhere, local authorities are discovering that decades of neglecting and underfunding council homes present safety concerns beyond fire. In Tottenham’s Broadwater Farm estate, two blocks were revealed to be structurally unsound following ‘post-Grenfell’ safety checks. The blocks were vulnerable to collapse if there were an explosion or vehicle impact. Haringey Council’s response, too, has been speedy evacuation – this time in order to demolish both blocks. 200 households are being told they must permanently leave their homes before October, when their supplier intends to switch off gas supply. Questions from residents and campaigners have arisen about the council’s intentions, and their ability, to afford adequate rehousing whilst demolition takes place and to guarantee any new towers would be available for all the same residents, at the same rent.

What faces residents of demolished social housing? Experiences from other demolitions are instructive: the land usually sold to a private developer, and the number of social housing units built in their place slashed. Council tenants are often forced to leave their communities, enter the private rental sector or move into pricey, often inadequate and invariably insecure temporary accommodation as they await another council home that may never come. Jacob, a resident of one of the towers facing demolition and a member of its Residents Association explains: ‘Council tenants get lied to all the time. I believe that strengthening the blocks [to prevent collapse], is expensive but it would be cheaper [than demolition]. Because it’s been deliberately neglected for so long, there isn’t a groundswell of residents asking for the council to save ‘our lovely block’. But as people move people into small and temporary flats, I don’t think they’ll be happy.”

These impossible binds in which council tenants are caught, be they around heating costs or safety concerns, are not inevitable. Even as government, and the developers and contractors with which they work, continue to do next to nothing to address the housing crisis, they patently could. One recent breakthrough was the Mayor of London’s introduction of a requirement for resident ballots to be taken on estates facing regeneration, official guidance on which was released this summer. The move was a step forward in demonstrating avenues for genuine consultation and accountability, though it is has key loopholes, including one exemption for demolitions needed for ‘safety reasons’. At Broadwater Farm, it’s the timing of any such ballot that matters.

“They say they will have a ballot or consultation after everyone is moved out”, Jacob counters, “but residents will have already moved by then, and are likely to be out of the block for two years, probably even longer.” The process indeed works as a disincentive to residents interested in refurbishment as opposed to demolition. “If there is a ballot and residents vote for refurbishment, we won’t be entitled to the £6,000 payment we would if it were demolished.”. After the considerable costs of moving home, £6,000 is not a small sum to refuse. Jacob’s message to local authorities? “Don’t use safety concerns to displace residents”.

It is not a problem exclusive to Tottenham. Across the river in Peckham, the Ledbury Estate was condemned as unsafe last year. Southwark council’s response? Demolition. For Danielle, from the estate’s Action Group, this isn’t good enough. “We had been raising these safety concerns for years and they have to be taken seriously. But the job to convince everyone they’re doing the right thing by decanting us is the council’s responsibility”. It is difficult for residents to read Southwark council’s actions as motivated by concern for safety. Just last month it was revealed they claimed to have carried out post-Grenfell risk assessments on 174 Southwark blocks; in fact they had checked just eight. On the ballot question, for Southwark, the writing is on the wall. “The results from our consultation have just come through”, Danielle tells me “The majority of people want the towers saved – it is now a question of money. For the council, it should be a case of listening and taking seriously what residents want. They should have a say in what happens next.”

The disregard for residents that built towards the deadliest fire in living memory now persists even when councils aim, or claim, to be addressing safety issues. Residents are routinely ignored on safety and, when councils act, are being coerced into impossible decisions. Thousands face potentially lethal fire, deadly cold, structural collapse – or displacement and entirely insecure housing options. As Danielle says of Southwark’s response to Ledbury, ‘If this continues then people will not trust to raise safety concerns, they’ll be pushed away from wanting to make them.’ Some journalists who covered the Chalcots estate last year interviewed residents refusing to leave with an air of bemusement: why would anyone stay in a categorically dangerous home? If councils don’t listen to tenants and do their utmost to act in the interests of both their safety and their housing security, we are likely to see more of the same"

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