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Grenfell Tower

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RhythmAndStealth · 14/06/2017 04:49

Watching the news just now and I can't believe my eyes. It looks absolutely horrific.

I want to think everyone got out safe, but sadly I just can't.

Some of the news reports are about alleged poor safety standards and dangerous living conditions. If that's true it just beggars belief.

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CoralDreamscapes · 14/06/2017 11:44

ThierryEnnui Sending you good thoughts and lots of love.

Kazzyhoward · 14/06/2017 11:44

Also, fire service access looks horrendous. Just been looking at some aerial photos and the access roads are very narrow, not to mention lots of new buildings very close to it's base, trees, etc. I wondered why there only seemed to be one aerial platform jet - I don't think they'd have space for anymore! Which planning committee plonkers thought it was safe to have such poor access. (Looking on the blog mentioned earlier, the residents were regularly complaining about blocked access roads and lack of space outside in case of emergency!).

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Avadaa · 14/06/2017 11:45

Thierry, hope they are found safe. Thinking of you. Such a sad thing to happen Sad

chantico · 14/06/2017 11:46

11122aa Getting a pass isn't the same as being sworn in in the chamber. No idea about the admin timelines, so could well be a different day

squoosh · 14/06/2017 11:48

KungFu the fact that the residents had been so vocal about the behaviour and attitudes of KCTMO and the potential dangers that threatened them makes it all the more horrific.

CondensedMilkSarnies · 14/06/2017 11:48

Thierry thinking of you and your friend .

Tiredemma · 14/06/2017 11:49

I cant bear this. The sounds of people screaming is harrowing.

mimishimmi · 14/06/2017 11:50

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 14/06/2017 11:51

Thinking of everyone. At this tragic time.

Thierry.Flowers

DearMrDilkington · 14/06/2017 11:55

This is heartbreaking.

Thierry Flowers

CoralDreamscapes · 14/06/2017 11:55

mimishimmi Please stop with the conspiracy theories.

MackerelOfFact · 14/06/2017 11:58

Oh gosh I'm so sorry Thierry, you must be beside yourself. I am thinking of you and hoping your friend is safe. Flowers

Goingtobeawesome · 14/06/2017 11:59

Thierry - I really hope your friend is fine and has just left her phone inside.

misskelly · 14/06/2017 11:59

This Is horrific and my heart goes out to those who have loved loved ones, been injured Andy lost their home.

I'm just so amazed and grateful that we have people who are willing to run in to that building to rescue others and put out that fire.

Delancy · 14/06/2017 12:01

Lets hope this starts a review of every single tower block safety and avoids any future disasters.
Those poor families.

SailAwayWithMeHoney · 14/06/2017 12:01

Thierry Flowers

WellThisIsShit · 14/06/2017 12:03

Sort your the thread might have moved on, just realised I've been writing and rewriting this for ages...

Please let's be careful with arguments and rebuttals that end with comments that appear to be blaming the residents for the fire?

Not talking about the general discussion of factors, or that we should or shouldn't post about this stuff, but a couple of the posts strike me on the raw... after the people being talked about, well, some of them are dying right at this moment. Right now.

Maybe it's the fear of how this could be twisted by people who have their own motives for wanting to blame poor people for the way they live (crassly said but hopefully you know what I mean)...

I'm sure human error has it's part somewhere, it always does, but really, the residents 'errors' won't ever be the sole cause of such a massive and uncontrollable blaze.

I suspect the answers will lie in many places.

And the decision of the council to do priorities aesthetics over safety cannot be glossed over or dismissed. Residents were begging them to look at safety concerns, they weren't listened to and nothing was done... except a multi million pound project to make the building look prettier from the outside. It's an old question but eternally relevant... 'who benefits?'

squoosh · 14/06/2017 12:05

I'm just so amazed and grateful that we have people who are willing to run in to that building to rescue others and put out that fire.

I know! There's no way I'd be brave enough to do what they do.

FreakOfNurture · 14/06/2017 12:08

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PerkingFaintly · 14/06/2017 12:09

"I'm just so amazed and grateful that we have people who are willing to run in to that building to rescue others and put out that fire."

This. Thoughts with the fire service and all the emergency services today, as well as residents.

Thanks Thierry.

Nananap · 14/06/2017 12:10

Theirry, my love Flowers

CondensedMilkSarnies · 14/06/2017 12:12

I've reported my post . It was insensitive and I didn't mean to imply it was the fault of residents at all.

CoolCarrie · 14/06/2017 12:12

I have report the post by one of the posters here, how dare you suggest that the residents may have caused this fire, you should be ashamed of yourself! Do you sincerely believe that someone would do this to prove a point to the council of the area? Give your fucking head a shake

AuntieStella · 14/06/2017 12:12

BBC reporting that 74 now in hospital (about 10 having made their own way there), of whom about 20 are in a critical condition.

The nearest hospital is St Mary's, which has a specialist burns unit.