MP Jo Cox shot and stabbed

[TheWildRumpyPumpus]

How terrifying that this can happen - not going to start speculating about how/why it's happened, but hope she pulls through.

Where would be the best place to post it?

Chilled, just how many children or family members have died in the last year due to your frankly bonkers gun laws? It's not.the Wild West any more you know?

The same amount of politicians that died due to your gun laws. None. They died because bad people illegally used a gun to murder someone they didn't like. You can make a case for whether specific laws make that a bit easier or a bit harder but at the end of the day, you shouldn't be diverting blame from the people who actually did the killings. Trying to blame gun laws for gun deaths is like blaming car manufacturers for hit and runs.

*chilledwarmth:
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Post in AIBU, it gets most traffic and is very bluntly honest.

"AIBU to think that gun laws in the UK should be relaxed"

I don't want your condolences if we have to put up with you being an idiot.

The condolences are not for you Thistle, they are for the person who died, and their loved ones. Thanks Mango.

How the hell is it "funny"? According to what I read a man tried to intervene and stop the attack but wasn't able to. If he had a weapon

It is hilarious that you are using the death of a politician to claim that the British people should all carry guns just in case they need to confront a mad man. TBH, it explains a lot about the gun mentality.

It is nasty and distasteful to hijack the thread and you ought to be utterly ashamed of yourself.

With the greatest respect chilledwarmth, your posts on this thread are inflammatory and unwelcome.

Thanks guys. I was just going to post STOP BEING A DICK. Won't have to now. Oh, wait...

Every time there is a shooting in America, hundreds of mumsnetters post demands that we change our laws. Are they hijacking the thread or being inflammatory? Or is it just that they think the deaths could have been avoided and want to suggest changes to make future similar incidents less likely. I mean you no disrespect or malice, especially on a day like today when your country is mourning the death of a well liked politician. For the same reasons that you all like to post that we change our laws when we have a shooting, I am merely making the same suggestion here. I don't think your laws are really working, and I think this death could have been avoided. I am not being inflammatory in saying that. As someone else has already said this is not the place for a debate, and I refuse to be drawn into one on this thread.

YOU BLOODY STARTED IT!

Nope, I posted expressing my condolences and that your country should do something to try and prevent this kind of thing from happening. Which is the same thing I've seen hundreds of mumsnetters doing. Look on ANY thread about an American shooting and you'll see hundreds of posts from people demanding a change in the law. I don't agree with what they say but I understand why they are saying it, because they honestly believe their suggestions would help prevent future attacks. What's wrong with making suggestions like that?

Many people on this thread have told you to back off, that you are offending and upsetting people. You have continued and generally we see that as goading. That's what's wrong with it.

I'm out. I'm genuinely quite upset by this terrible murder and what it means for us and I need to not be reading nonsense by people who think the answer to violence is more guns.

I'm sorry for contributing to the derailing of the thread, I shouldn't have risen to it.

IHeart some people are not worth engaging with.

x-post with you. It's hard not to get angry sometimes.

cheers x

It is a truly dreadful loss. Like I said, she wasn't my representative, hell she wasn't even a part of the government of my country but it seems she was one of the good ones. It can be hard to tell because even bad people usually get "talked up" once they are dead but upon closer reading it seems she genuinely was one of the good and caring and decent politicians. They are very rare these days, so many people are only in it for their own gain but it seems that Mrs Cox wasn't. One less good person in the world doing good things is bad for everybody, and especially bad for the people she was close to who now have to live a life without a mother, a wife, a friend.

Keep your guns and your ways. We do just fine compared to you lot.

Cool. Got anything to say about the actual thread?

Can we stop discussing what chilled said or this will continue forever? Chilled now realises that this is not the right place to discuss that, but chilled is entitled to her views and MangoMoon has helpfully suggested that a better place to discuss them is in a new thread on AIBU.

Wow, this place is incredible.

Agree with claig. I expressed condolences for a tragic loss of life and made a brief comment that I think it could have been avoided if the laws were different, something which hundreds of mumsnetters do every time there is a shooting in America. I didn't want, or expect, others to try making it into a full debate on gun control. Yes I am actually interested in such a debate but certainly not here in this thread, this is about a women who was cruelly murdered, not a place for having a major debate, and people should remember that.

splendid, I'm glad we are all agreed :)

We'll leave it then. Let's all do what claig says.

Hypocrite.

Seriously Eggs? Thank god for that.