anyoen delighted that we MAY see the back of JADE?

[100PerCentCod]

is this the end of her?
i do hope so

Because I'm a fellow human being, beanieb. And because I'm a mother who has a little boy just a little younger than the boys who lost their mum today. I feel like bloody namechanging to the word "empathy" just to remind people like beanie of the whole concept.

Oh x-posts with Beanie.

I haven't seen all that, so don't know Beanie. I don't think that has been the conversation on this thread, but perhaps it has on others.

Oh Twinkle. I think you're fighting with wrong person, aren't you?

God, it's all very confusing.

beanie

please dont drag the bereaved mummies into this nonsense

we are merely a group of lovely, like minded people supporting each other on a really hard road, and picking each other up when we stumble

I really dont see why you have dragged us into this nonsense ...

i've deliberately kept off the sympathy threads, this didn't sound like one (to say the least) so i clicked. i haven't seen vitriol on this thread, other than directed at the pps.

Oh God I'm so sorry, I completely misread beanieb's post . I think. I'm poorly today - that's my excuse for being dense and stupid.

But the person who ressurected this two year old thread won't feel thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

They won't because they're probably one of those thoroughly pompous up-their-own-arse types that seem to populate this site. They think they're witty and intellectual and funny with their pathetic "in jokes" and snidey remarks. They do what they do with impunity and anyone who doesn't measure up to the sort of person they think should be here is ridiculed and derided.

But they're not funny at all and no one other than those who are in their little cliques and egg them on find them funny. Most people can see them for what they really are; smug, supercillious snobs, bores and internet bullies - they are just the sort of people I truly hope I never have the misfortune to meet in real life.

The sooner these people decide to go and establish a private site, where they can rip people who they consider to be less intelligent than themselves to shreds to their hearts' content, the better IMVHO.

Twinkle, sorry I think I have confused me. I saw the thread title and some of the comments which were very unsympathetic towards a person who has died. My 'for fucks sake' was to those people, not to those who expressed sympathy for a dead mother.

I do think some posts over the last few weeks have been mawkish but I am not one of those people who would even consider telling people that when it seems pointless to do so.

Sorry - I guess I have just been a twat, but Arrrggghhhhhhhhhhh I see the same names pop up over and over with this incessant need to slag Jade Goody (and anyone who sympathises with her) off!

I will go and lie in a dark room until I have cooled down or something

whispers sorry!

I've only seen this thread and a birthday thread which was clearly taking the piss out of the emotionally incontinent. What happened to the birthday thread btw? It has gorn and there were some cracking one-liners.

see, i think you need to go and have a cup of tea, gunnerbean, if MN gets to you that much.

what has happened today, then?

"please dont drag the bereaved mummies into this nonsense" sorry - I was talking about bereaved people but used mothers without thinking it may be seen as me singling out a certain part of the forum which wasn't my intention but is bad,y worded so I can understand may have looked like that.

Apologies for any offence, was not intentional.

who is slagging off Jade Goody on this thread, beanie? and elsewhere?

beanieb it is worth chewing over i think.

some posters are using the emotive situation to stifle normal debate.

I'm not delighted she is gone.

I didn't know her. I didn't particularly like the person she came across as being.

But she was a person. She was a mother. She was a wife. Whatever we thought about her and whatever mistakes she made, she has lost her life. No-one deserves to die in their 20s.

I don't grieve for her because I don't personally know her. But as far as I can see she wasn't an evil person and she didn't deserve this - very few do. And for that I feel sadness. As I would feel compassion for anyone else. and those left behind, in this situation.

nps beanie .. crossed wires is all

fm goes back to bacardi and chocolate

All these accusations are extraordinary. Twinkle and Beanie fighting over how they both think it's okay to show empathy. Gunnerbean lets loose on internet in crowd and snide remarks and playground hostilities!

You empathetic lot sure are hot-headed!

I think the thread title is incendiary. Perhaps we should let this thread gooooo

if I ever got to the point of going to bed and thinking "I did good forum posting today" I thinki would start to have serious questions about whether I should perhaps get out more.

I have to admit that I saw this thread in active convos and thought "OMG, if i open this thread it will be a huge ruck already," it never occurred to me that it was an old thread. So when i started to read the thread I became increasingly at what was written there. It took nearly a page of posts before it occurred to me to look at the date

I do think that resurrecting this thread today was in bad taste. In fact I wonder what would motivate someone to do that, in the same way I wonder why people start hate groups for celebrities they don't like.

But looking at the earlier posts, I do find the contrast interesting between what was written then and what has been written now.

Some of the posts earlier in this thread were very harsh. And yet a lot of those same posters are now expressing their sadness on other jade threads, and anyone who dare criticize is dealt with.

So why is it ok to call someone scum while they are alive but once they die or are dying it is not

Surely that level of vitreol is either ok, or it isn't, regardless of the state of health of the recipiant.?

who is slagging her off?

sorry - I apologise, I didn't realise the first part of the thread was about Big Brother

I still object to the bumping though - as you all do. I am sorry

Will go and stand in the corner until I learn to read all the thread before replying.

Some poeple must have too much time on their hands.
ffs

Nah I'm not not fighting with Beanie - not once I actually read her post properly. Sorry for that Beanie. again. I'll stop bumping this now.

dittany

my feeling about jadeis that in bb she behaved in an abhorrent and ignorant manner

she knew no better

she learned from her mistakes

educated herself

never hid or excused what she had done and said

that is what made me respect Jade 12 months after i had condemned her

'who were attacking Jade'?

you don't think that's weird at all? they were commenting on her, and her appalling bullying, they weren't attacking her. she didn't even know they existed. i tell you what, i hope this madness passes soon.

I dip in and out of this site and am not the type to spend hours at a time 7 days a week on it. But what I do see here, on many threads, is, unfortubately, very much what I described below.

I wouldn't say MN "gets to me" - I save getting worked up for things that really matter in my real life. I only pop in here when browsing other sites on the net generally but what I do see here (as described) I find rather disturbing to be honest and I don't always think it's a nice environment at all.

So, I think, given the general mean-spiritedness I have seen directed towards a young woman who has very recently died from a throughly unpleasant illness, I will give Mumsnet a miss for a while. It has all left rather an unpleasant taste in my mouth so maybe a nice cup of tea to wash it away is not such a bad idea after all...

Finally, as BeanieB said:

"Nice people some of you are not and nice children you will not be raising if all you can think of posting is such vitriolic and waste of time opinion."

That's the most incisive comment I've seen on here ever I think...

wholly agree Gunnerbean