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BeetrootsResolution · 30/12/2006 12:39

My uncle sent me this and thought it was an appropriate time to share it with you

The Truth?

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Socci · 31/12/2006 14:13

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JanH · 31/12/2006 14:13

Good plausible explanations here (but not precisely who was responsible I don't think. And no Part III. But maybe that's part of the conspiracy )

Controlled Demolition, which features largely in Part II, has a Bush connection IIRC from Loose Change - brother Marvin maybe?

Socci · 31/12/2006 14:13

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JanH · 31/12/2006 14:16

The towers were designed to withstand a hit from a plane, although one as big as a 767 didn't exist when they were built. They also had a large degree of flexibility and used to wave about in strong winds (the express lifts used to be turned off on those days) so would have absorbed some of the impact.

Blandmum · 31/12/2006 14:20

some, but not all.

Are you honestly saying that you think the government blew up the towers, and at the same time flew planes into them. If so, why do the latter?

ludaloo · 31/12/2006 14:20

The WTC was originally designed to take a hit from a Boeing 707 (four engines) and approx the size of the 757s that did hit them. The building itself has 47 central core columns which then held the 4 outer walls in place. When the planes hits they should have been like pens hitting a mosquito net punching holes in the outer skin but not being capable of destroying the core.

The problem i have with the collapse is that the centre core should have been left standing from the 30th 40th 50th 60th floor down, but it wasn,t it dissappeared down to the third floor. What broke the central core columns on floor 10 20 30 40 or 50 ?

WTC 7 is still the key beacuse I do belive it was a controlled demoilition, which meant that someone knew it was going to happen, they let it happen and helped it a long to there own gains.

No more WTC7 no more Enron investigation, no put options investigation.

Do I belive that the whole things a fix from start to finish.

No probably not to that extent, but there is so much that does not add up.

The 25% full aircraft ? how planes have you been on with only one in four seats filled.

The Mark bingham phone call ? and the technology for making cell phone calls from moving aircraft in 2001

The put options on American Airlines 21 times the daily average on Sept 10th

The pentagon strike footage ? have you seen it can you see a plane ? Americas most secure building ? what and only one cctv camera, c,mon.

The lack of aircraft at the pentagon and in Pennsylvania.

The 6 hijackers named in the 9/11 commission report who are alive and kicking.

WTC 7

Blandmum · 31/12/2006 14:22

I have flown on a plane with tiny occupancy

fropm Edinburgh to east midlands on an early morning flight

noddyholder · 31/12/2006 14:23

If they did blow up the towers intentionally the planes flying into them gave them someone to blame!

ludaloo · 31/12/2006 14:23

The Damage in the lobby of WTC1 in the Gaudet brothers film.

Narrated by Rober De niro he says " that the damage is from a fireball that hurtled dwon the lift shafts"

WTC 1 and 2 were thermogramatically sealed every 30 floors or so as fire breaks.

JanH · 31/12/2006 14:23

Another interesting set of theories from Morgan Reynolds, Ph.D. - "professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and former director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis headquartered in Dallas, TX. He served as chief economist for the US Department of Labor during 2001?2, George W. Bush's first term."

Not a loony, then?

Blandmum · 31/12/2006 14:24

err, noddy, they could have just said the terrorists blew up the building! Why have the plane, which would have had to be remotly flown, full of gassed passengers!

Blandmum · 31/12/2006 14:26

no, nit a loony, be he is an economist not a structual engineer or physicist!

Just cos he is clever, it don't make him an expert in a field other than his own!

JanH · 31/12/2006 14:27
Papillon · 31/12/2006 14:27

Well I have to go out and drink champagne for NYE, so won't be back until tomorrow with my next installment of conspiracy laden toffee. BTW have been reading conspiracy theories, alien phenomena on and off for about 12 years - maybe it was a space ship that hit the buildings!!!

Planes have flown into buildings before and they have not pancaked, why the WTC's....??? No wonder people ask questions.

Blandmum · 31/12/2006 14:28

Ahhh, the 'failed' appolo space ship that didn't go to the moon, and was full of the gun men from the grassy knoll, hit the towers.

Socci · 31/12/2006 14:30

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QuootiepieTheNewYearsAss · 31/12/2006 14:30

Not really thoroughly read this thread, it's pretty mind boggling, but, what about the phone calls from the people on the planes to their loved ones? That couldn't be faked.

JanH · 31/12/2006 14:34

I think we might have moved on a bit from the gassed passengers, mb. (Well I have anyway!)

JanH · 31/12/2006 14:35

They had to use the planes in order to have them flown by the suspects in order to link them with Al Qaeda.

And don't forget that most of those suspects are in fact still alive

JanH · 31/12/2006 14:37

Qootie, there were really only "phone calls to loved ones" on Flight 93 - very few calls from the other flights, and some of them were odd.

QuootiepieTheNewYearsAss · 31/12/2006 14:39

o right. This all makes me very jittery. All these "what if's"... It's a wonder why any of us leave the house!

QuootiepieTheNewYearsAss · 31/12/2006 14:39

but why just one flight? Surely others on the other planes had phones?

JanH · 31/12/2006 14:43

Most of the calls from 93 were from the "Airphone" because it was too high for cellphones to work. It was in the air for a lot longer than the other flights.

The calls from the other flights were mostly from stewardesses speaking to air traffic control or the FAA or someone like that - and one was quoted as saying "I see buildings...and water..." when she would actually surely have said "OH MY GOD WE'RE OVER MANHATTAN"

QuootiepieTheNewYearsAss · 31/12/2006 14:45

oh righty. I thought they called on cell phones.

JoolsToo · 31/12/2006 14:45

sorry I'm behind everyone else - I keep going away and coming back!

mb's link to the fires in WTC7 and vast volume of smoke to the opposite side of the fire appears to me to be the fallout of dust from the collapse of the twin towers? (looking at the FEMA report chapter 5 seems to confirm this if you look at the photos therein.)

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