Brexit: what would happen to EU citizens living in UK?

[marghini]

I am a EU citizen and I have been living, working and paying taxes in the UK for a while.

I am really concerned about what would happen to the EU citizens who built a life for themselves and settled here in the UK in case of a Brexit.

Do you think all EU citizens already living in the UK would be pushed out? Or perhaps the government would just stop allowing further EU immigration?

At the moment we are still in the EU. Cameron remains prime minister until October and nothing has changed (but everything has changed in some ways). We are very unlikely to rejoin.
We are probably unlikely to have much free movement of persons going forwards as those people (God forgive them) who voted for exit don't want that. Foreigners were the biggest issue for them.

it would certainly make sense for those in the UK who don't have a British passport to look at their rights to remain and that kind of thing but there are likely to be some interim arrangements put in place.

I do not expect cash flow controls but there have been in the past. My grandfather's passport lists exactly what cash he took out of the UK as we had what were known as "exchange controls" and you could not easily move cash out of or into the UK. If I had any cash or assets abroad I would consider bringing them home although today may not be the best day for conversion of euros into sterling.

Now is the time to spread financial risk, h old on to your hats and hold on to your jobs for dear life. It is going to be a risky ride. Risk brings opportunities too however so it will not necessarily all be bad for everyone. Seize the day.

Well said Glowfrog well said.

Glow frog- well said!

What don't people realise immigration will still happen. Just we will control it instead of the eu. And who says we will do a better job?

Ridiculous descion to leave.

It's also easier to get citizenship as a spouse

Not any more. Since last year for an EU citizen to get british citizenship through marriage, you first need to get (and hold for a year) EEAPR - which is very hard to do!

Surely there would be an amnesty for EU citizens already here?

Lets look at the home office's track record shall we?

When they changed the EEAPR rules, did they make allowances for people who had built up their qualifying years under the old rules? No! not only did they not do that, they also applied the rules retrospectively - so that people who followed the rules for years to build up their qualifying years, now had NO years to count towards it. Those years when they were following the rules - oh! now they weren't following the rules, the rules that hadn't been made yet!

When the Home office quietly changed the rules about natralization through marriage, did they make allowances for people whose applications under the old rules (as stated on .gov at the time of posting) were being processed? NO! they rejected them all and kept their 1K and made them start the now potentially 6-7 year process (to meet EEAPR prior to applying) under the new rules all over again

So, do we really think the home office has form for making allowances for people already in the system?

Did it make allowances when they changed the min income for non EU last April? Did they heck! They kicked settled people out, people who had been following the rules until the rules changed

So, does all that apply for people from theEU who have kids with British passports too? I have lived here for more than 20 years and my DS has British citizenship (his dad is British, but we are not married). DS doesn't actually speak my language, would he be made to go to that country? Can't be ruled out, can it!

Having children doesn't qualify you for PR by itself, but it can help you back it up as extra information, you still need 5 qualifying PR years in which you have to have ticked all kinds of boxes, one example is having had full (not cheapo partial) health insurance if you were a student in the last 5 years.

About naturalisation, it is vital to clarify that the 5 Years +1 for naturalisation still applies and indeed you must apply for the Residence Card. Nevertheless, the naturalisation process can start when you have accrued the 6 calendar years, not from whence the card will be issued.

If there is to be any amnesty I'ld imagine it'll be for EU people who have a PR in their passports.

But once any rule like that did come in, it'ld be too late for most people to start the process.

Anyone here who is EU should get on it and get an EEA(PR) if they can, and then once they've had that a year, naturalise if they plan to stay. That's my opinion, I personally wouldn't "wait and see" - by the time you see that you need that stuff it'll be too late to start the process because it takes YEARS.

My undersanding is that you need to have had the card for a 12 months before you can apply.

5 qualifying years to get it, then hold it for 12 months

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected no, it is the calendar years you have built up and prove, no from when the card will be issued. Say you accrued the 5 years in Sept 2015 and applied the same month. The card may be issued on May 2016 but you can apply for naturalisation from Sept 2016.

So the CEO of my company announced today that as a result of Brexit we may move our headquarter from London to Zurich. He hopes he will be able to move most the staff there thus retaining as many current employees as possible, but at the moment there is not guarantee. #thankyoubrexit #unempleymentcomingsoon

Hi, I am basically from pakistan and doing a job in Telecom company in sweden . I am expecting a Swedish passport in October 2016. I was planning to moved to UK in early 2017 as my wife is doctor it's hard from her to learn Swedish language. I was thinking to move to UK as she can continue her professional carrier their easily.

I had read that it will take two years for Britian and EU to implement the rules after Brexit.

I need a bit help from group members that if I will move to UK and start job their in early 2017. Should it will effect me and my wife ?

What actions I will take that will help me to integrate in UK as soon as possible ?

Ask Nigel Farage he seems to have all the answers on free movement . Perhaps Boris will comment now we have a Brexit vote to leave the EU

Yes, and the answers on the Leave website about EU workers currently here are wrong and misleading, then...

Who knows what is actually going to happen because the leave campaign DID NOT HAVE A PLAN.

They have fucked up big style. Items they have not made clear:

What happens to the Brits living abroad?
Do we all need to get new passports? Who is going to manage that? Can you get one if you live abroad at the moment?
We have no access to the European court of Human Rights. What happens when our justice system fails?
Do we owe the EU money?
What happens to all the European investment in the UK? Do we lose it all now?
Lots and lots of stuff they haven't bothered to consider because they never thought they'd win and that wasn't the point anyway.

I'm English and married to a Polish woman for the past 7 years, she is worried about the result thinking she will have to leave the UK. The reason she is thinking this is because our marriage is registered in Poland and not in England. We went to register here but were told we don't need to. Will things have changed now coming out of the e.u?

It is a scary time for EU citizens in the UK and UK citizens in the EU - no-one knows what will happen and what the results of the treaty negotiations will be - so we are entering months. possibly years of uncertainty:

• if EU citizens are treated as "non-EU" immigrants will they be required to earn the £35K that non-EU immigrants are required to earn for a visa? This will have a severe impact on many workers
• will UK citizens be required to pay for visas and health insurance to continue to live in the EU?

Such a time of uncertainty for so many - as a Brit living in the EU I'm feeling glad I applied for dual citizenship in February

I've got an appointment with an immigration advisor to try to help me with the confusion that is EEAPR. I tried to look into it years ago, and was told not to bother, because I wouldn't get it anyway (I think an advice line actually gave me wrong information at the time), and because I didn't need it. Wish I'd dealt with it back then. Not sure if I'll be able to get it now, despite living here for 16 years.

I've lived here for 22 years, got husband and kids (still in school), always worked, buying a house, and now what? I am actually sick with worry. In all this bloody propaganda, people like me were never discussed.

I don't even understand the things you are talking about, like EEAPR. I never worried about anything before with regards to residency. Always worked on the understanding that my right to stay was a long-standing arrangement. Should I have applied for residency?

I can't have dual citizenship because of my home country, and I do not want to give up my citizenship.

We have no access to the European court of Human Rights. What happens when our justice system fails?

This is not true - the ECHR is separate to the EU.

However, if we get a right-wing Tory government they want us to do away with the Human Rights Act and not be subject to the European Court of Human Rights. If there is a General Election for goodness sake don't vote Tory if you want to keep your employment and human rights.

I read something this morning which suggests if you are an EU citizen working here and have a National Insurance number you will be OK . Presumably any dependents you have will be OK .

Yes, the ECHR is not an EU institution and unless and until we change the law the Human Right Act 1998 remains English law.

post, where did you read this?

I read something this morning which suggests if you are an EU citizen working here and have a National Insurance number you will be OK . Presumably any dependents you have will be OK .

Nonsense. I have a US social security number after working in summer camps as a student, I have absolutely no rights to live or work there.