Boy stabbed at school has died

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Oh my God! this is awful. A boy was stabbed today at a school just outside Aberdeen. Reports say he was only 15. Now twitter is saying he has died.

Cults academy.

Sorry, are we gauging how sad we feel by how middle class or otherwise the parents are?

Crikey, like the DM and their obsession with how much the houses of all protagonists in a news story are worth.

Poor lad and poor family, whoever they are

His poor family this is so tragic.
The person who killed hims family must be in shock also.
Terrible for all.

Worst nightmare as a parent.

Closely followed by being the parent of a child who killed him,I'm sure. Awful for them too.

Awful, awful news.

Thinking of everyone affected.

Tragic, and just reinforces me belief that the answer to preventing killings in school doesnt lie in banning the instrument used for the killing.t banning knives would not be a solution to this in the same way banning guns wouldn't stop Americas problem. You are allowed to carry a knife but not if you use it as a weapon and this boy did exactly that. It's awful and so young (both of them). Not that I feel sorry for the murderer, it's just that TWO human lives at that school have been effectively destroyed in the time between lunch and going home. It's devastating, I can't imagine what grief the family are going through.

Name changed as this is my local school. Everyone is absolutely shocked and devastated by this. So you know: the school sits near the top of Scottish league tables and the catchment is made up of some of the most expensive postcodes in Scotland. You don't expect this sort of thing in any area but the area is very low in crime so any violence, let alone something this serious, would be shocking round here. But a life is a life be it a rich child or a deprived one, they all have so much potential. It took place in the middle of the school day so some friends kids saw it happen. The parents weren't impressed as though a serious incident was reported on the news, the first parents heard was when the kids were let out at the end of the school day. I feel so sorry for the family.

donthave I don't follow your logic. It is already illegal carry knifes and if the perpetrator didn't have a knife he wouldn't have been able to fatally stab the other child.

My point is exactly what you said - making the item that the killer used illegal had no effect, it didn't prevent him using it anyway. This is what convinces me that simple legislating against an object will not stop these tragedies. There needs to be a deeper approach.

It is shocking news. I just can't understand what would possess someone to go into a school with a knife. It's very sad for all involved, including the child who committed the crime.

Maybe he took someones pocket knife or something. Does it say where he got it from?

So you're using this case as a reason guns should not be banned in America?
And you think that's logical, reasonable or sensitive?

If knives weren't banned from being carried, I fear there would be more incidents like this in school. Thinking of everyone involved-horrendous.

As this is an 'In a the News' thread, I'm going to take it that it is OK to discuss all newsworthy angles, included what has been posted above.

Because a I think that it's utter bollocks to compare this to school shootings in a foreign country where firearms are freely available. Not least because in UK, where there is stringent, and usually effective, gun control, there have been no school shootings.

And of course we do not know anything about the weapon yet. Every secondary in the country contains knives, in DT rooms. Very few contain guns (other than those with CCFs, who have to abide by stringent regulation).

Yes, I would agree the key thing is someone who does harm (whether premeditated or heat of the moment). But the amount of harm that person can do is enormously magnified by the methods available for doing it.

Did the school handle this badly?

• could they have stopped a penknife being brought into school?
• was there some bullying behaviour that they could've and should've addressed?
• should they have told the parents rather than letting them find out at home time or from the TV and radio news?

I suspect the answer to the first is no, the second is maybe and the third is yes!

- was there some bullying behaviour that they could've and should've addressed?

The person rumoured to have been arrested beat my brother up 2 years ago (away from school). He is 4 years older than my brother.

Did the school handle this badly?

It is such an unusual situation. With all media outlets descending on them, I think the school did the best it could. It was a pity the victim was named by sky news and other media outlets before the police confirmed. The next of kin knew but the boy's wider family apparently have found out through the media. That is god awful.

I'd like to apologise for putting his name prematurely on this thread.

I had followed a BBC report, in the misplaced belief that the BBC could be trusted to use only confirmed information and to respect the reasons why a victim's name might be kept private for some hours.

It was only after I'd posted that I spotted that it was 'named locally' rather than officially confirmed. I'm cross with myself for not being more careful.

It was an easy mistake AuntieStella.

You would think the STV and Sky News would have a moral and legal obligation to not name victims before the police have issued an official statement.

It looks like they've also nicked the victim's Facebook profile pic. That's not on either.

I am increasingly concerned about the numbers of youngsters carrying knives.

We've had three deaths in outer town recently through stab wounds.

One was a domestic violence incident ...a young couple and he had a knife.

Another was a gang related killing.

The third was a man just challenging some teenagers for interfering with his work van. There was a scuffle and one youngster had a knife. The man was stabbed multiple times and died.

Am sickened by it all.

The press always raid FB. I am always telling my teens not to post pictures of themselves on it and to keep their privacy settings tight.

I am terribly sorry for this young man and his family
Can't imagine their pain and loss...

The word is he was stabbed with scissors.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot perhaps you're very young, but the mass school shooting at Dunblane Primary School, committed by Thomas Hamilton, remains very fresh in my memory.

Gun control has, of course, been tightened since.

Gosh, yes, remember Dunblane so clearly. Horrific.

Poor, poor family of Bailey.

I think she meant a shooting where the perpetrator was a student. I don't think any adult in the UK is in any way ignorant to the horrific tragedy in Dunblane.

Perhaps so, and I certainly mean no disrespect to WTF. Those children would have been about 25 now, (same age as ds2, I heard about the killings when I went to collect him from school) so anyone much younger quite possibly wouldn't be aware the same way older people remember.

Anyway, that's all a bit of a derail, my apologies.