Pat Buchanan - Can the Establishment stop Trump or is it all over?

[claig]

Pat Buchanan, one of the few real non-moderniser conservatives left on the planet, says it looks near to impossible for the Establishment to stop Trump now.

Carly Fiorina has collapsed to 4%, the Establishmentg media hype failed to help her, and Marco Rubio is now the Establishment's last chance to save themselves.

"The lights are burning late tonight in the suites of the establishment. For not since Sen. Barry Goldwater won the California primary in 1964 have their prospects appeared so grim.

Can Trump be stopped?"

www.wnd.com/2015/10/can-trump-be-stopped/

As Pat says, the mood of the people has changed. They are anti the political correctness agenda of the elites and the modernisers,

"In a year when a huge slice of the nation is disgusted with political correctness, wants to dethrone the establishment, wipe the slate clean and begin anew with someone fresh, Trump is in the pole position."

What happens in America could sweep here too. It looks like we may be witnessing the end of political correctness and the modernisers.

'Trump can talk about not being a puppet bought by the corporate elite because he is one of the corporate elite. He doesn't need their money because he already has it'

Then why do they all fear him? Why aren't they all backing him to win? He will upset their entire applecart. They asked him on Fox the other day if he would shit down the government to stop funding the planned parenthood stuff. He said he won't say because he wants to be unpredictable. It is that unpredictability that terrifies them because they don't control him and aren't sure what he will do.

'Is it really 'courageous' to shoot from the mouth when there are zero consequences of any note?'

Very much so because he has to endure all the criticism of the politically correct clases and the media pundits and the lapdog puppet politicians he is campaigning against. A weak person would cave in, like Corbyn over singing the national anthem etc, and would not give a straight answer. But the reason people like Trump is because he doesn't cave in, he has even upped the ante over Bush and poor old "low energy" Jeb Bush is knocking back the lucozade trying to keep up.

' Just watch a few old episodes of the Apprentice for example.'

I haven't seen any of those so I don't know what he is like in them.

Sorry, "shut down"

This Firefox browser is doing my head in. I'll have to shut it down again!

"I haven't heard or seen the quotes"

Well I have, and I'm not even interested in the man.

Where have you been looking, to form your opinion?

'Where have you been looking, to form your opinion?'

The Daily Mail and Fox News.

Obviously you are joking.

You didn't see

"In a CNN interview, Mr Trump said the Fox presenter "had blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever" to describe the way she questioned him during the debate over comments he had made about women."

"He also retweeted a message that referred to her as a "bimbo"."

How did you avoid them?

claig Tue 20-Oct-15 21:10:35
I don't think he is racist or sexist

"The former Hewlett Packard boss Carly Fiorina had been roundly insulted by Trump when he questioned her suitability because of her appearance.

Republican presidential candidate, businessman Donald Trump, top, talks with Carly Fiorina following the CNN Republican presidential debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum on Wednesday, Sept. 16, 2015, in Simi Valley, Calif.
He told Rolling Stone - "Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?""

Have you seen trump's birth certificate?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34287676

I believe in free speech, people call Cameron a twit and worse, so Trump can call her a "bimbo" as he thought she was being used to attack him unfairly. I am for robust debate, they call Trump names, he calls them back.

Yes, Trump had a go at Carly Fiorina's face. So what? Surely she can take it and hit back about him? They are adults and want to be President, they have to be able to take knocks and handle them. The public don't care which is why Trump's poll ratings are so high and all the attempts by the corporate media to act shocked and scandalised by Trump's language has had no effect on the polls, and if anything has helped him even more. It's a bit like here with Farage. The more scandalised the politically correct class act about Farage, the more votes he wins.

Being President of the United States and standing up for the American people is far more important than comments about "bimbos" or candidates' faces and the voters know it.

I believe in free speech, people call Cameron a twit and worse, so Trump can call her a "bimbo" as he thought she was being used to attack him unfairly. I am for robust debate, they call Trump names, he calls them back.

Yes, Trump had a go at Carly Fiorina's face. So what? Surely she can take it and hit back about him? They are adults and want to be President, they have to be able to take knocks and handle them. The public don't care which is why Trump's poll ratings are so high and all the attempts by the corporate media to act shocked and scandalised by Trump's language has had no effect on the polls, and if anything has helped him even more. It's a bit like here with Farage. The more scandalised the politically correct class act about Farage, the more votes he wins.

Being President of the United States and standing up for the American people is far more important than comments about "bimbos" or candidates' faces and the voters know it.

"It all started with Trump's response to Kelly's challenge during Thursday's debate. "You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals," she said. "Only Rosie O'Donnell," came the reply."

Well you won't be able to pretend you haven't seen the remarks, any more.

'Donald Trump criticised for not correcting 'Obama is Muslim' man'

That was a set-up. His opponents and the Establishment are desperate to stop Trump and are placing plants in his meetings hoping that Trump will slip up and say something politically incorrect. Trump didn't fall for it, he ignored the plant and the media still tried to hammer Trump over not personally physically ejecting the plant.

But, as ever, the "silent majority" doesn't care about the establishment media's tricks and Trump's poll ratings keep going up.

' "You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals," she said. "Only Rosie O'Donnell," came the reply."

Well you won't be able to pretend you haven't seen the remarks, any more.'

I watched the debate on Fox. The audience laughed when he said it. He didn't call all women that, he called Rosie O'Donnell that. I don't care if he calls a sleb a slob or not.

' "You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals," she said. "Only Rosie O'Donnell," came the reply."

Well you won't be able to pretend you haven't seen the remarks, any more.'

I watched the debate on Fox. The audience laughed when he said it. He didn't call all women that, he called Rosie O'Donnell that. I don't care if he calls a sleb a slob or not.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Anyway, Claig, I'm not going to pay any attention to what you say, because you're a, and from your whatever, you're a so your opinion can be ignored. People from your country are * and . You're a * . like you are of no worth and can be dismissed and ignored. You deserve no respect.

Still, Claig thinks it isn't sexist or racist, so she's happy.

Why don't you just have the courage to say what you want to say about me instead of using asterisks? Trump doesn't use asterisks, he says what he thinks. I think he went too far on Mexicans, but he was not referring to all Mexicans in spite of what the media tries to say about him.

Why don't you just have the courage to say what you want to say about me instead of using asterisks? Trump doesn't use asterisks, he says what he thinks. I think he went too far on Mexicans, but he was not referring to all Mexicans in spite of what the media tries to say about him.

Ffs claig can you hear yourself. Your turning into isitmebut with your absolute insistence in defending the shit he come out with.
Being a nasty dickhead doesn't make him a fucking hero.

Oswin, I said he went too far on Mexicans. I don't care if he calls Rosie O'Donnell a slob, Marco Rubio a "puppet" and Jeb "low energy" or not because I care about the more important things he stands for.

The media are focusing on him calling people names in an attempt to sway the public against him but it is not working because like me, the majority of Reoublican voters don't care one bit because they like the good things he says, and the fact that he can wind the media up is another reason they like him because it means they won't be able to silence him.

They focus on the insignificant and Republican voters focus on what makes him significant.

Ah OK, so it's not that you don't think he is sexist or racist. You like him being openly sexist and racist, and consider that a courageous position.

Well I guess that says a lot about you claig. Not too surprising as you showed very similar thinking with your UKIP support.

I think it is only sexist or racist if what he says is generalised to all women or all people of a particular race.

I didn't like what he said about Mexicans because he generalised to a lot of Mexicans implying that they were drug dealers etc and I think it is wrong to generalise like that.

I don't like people whom I consider to be real sexists and racists and for me that is friend of politicians, Jeremy Clarkson. I don't think Trump is and I think he will be the next President of the United States and it will be a great thing for the entire world if he makes it.

No one has even voted yet. Trump will not be the Republican nominee, although as a Democrat, I can only hope he will be.

SenecaFalls, how will they stop Trump becoming the nominee?

Pat Buchanan, a Republican former Presidential candidate, says that it looks very unlikely the establishment can stop Trump winning now.

"Between now and March, they must settle on a candidate, hope his rivals get out of the race, defeat Trump in one of the first two contests, or effect his defeat by someone like Carson, then pray Trump will collapse like a house of cards.

The improbabilities of accomplishing this grow by the week and will soon start looking, increasingly, like an impossibility – absent the kind of celestial intervention that marked the career of the late Calvin Coolidge."