Do you think now the world has it's eyes opened to the true horror unfolding in Syria, they will now actually do something about ISIS?

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I know efforts are being made by some nations to try and counteract ISIS with the aid of drones and counter intelligence but I wonder if the refugee crisis may serve to instigate some direct action by more of the World's heavyweights?

I have just read the story of how Aylan's father has traveled back to Kobane to bury his family and has no intention of leaving the country again. It is his home and he was only leaving to try and save his family after 11 of his extended family were murdered by ISIS. There has been so much talk about migrants and asylum seekers and trying to help those who are fleeing, but most of these people would not be fleeing if it wasn't for the fact that they fear for their lives.

Surely we should be doing more to make their own country safe or do you think that's not possible and the only solution is to allow the ethnic cleansing to carry on taking place.

Crispin Blunt said that the secular Sunni establishment prefer Assad

"the more secular Sunni establishment, all of whom look to the regime for protection from the more fundamentalist forces of revolutionary Islam."

"the more secular Sunni establishment, all of whom look to the regime for protection from the more fundamentalist forces of revolutionary Islam."

He says all of whom not just some of whom

Guardian article from just over 3 years ago.

"Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media

Jonathan Steele

Suppose a respectable opinion poll found that most Syrians are in favour of Bashar al-Assad remaining as president, would that not be major news? Especially as the finding would go against the dominant narrative about the Syrian crisis, and the media considers the unexpected more newsworthy than the obvious.

Alas, not in every case. When coverage of an unfolding drama ceases to be fair and turns into a propaganda weapon, inconvenient facts get suppressed. So it is with the results of a recent YouGov Siraj poll on Syria commissioned by The Doha Debates, funded by the Qatar Foundation. Qatar's royal family has taken one of the most hawkish lines against Assad ?? the emir has just called for Arab troops to intervene ?? so it was good that The Doha Debates published the poll on its website. The pity is that it was ignored by almost all media outlets in every western country whose government has called for Assad to go."

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda

I'm not surprised by this. Who would prefer the Jihadis apart from the rich oil money men?

Feck me, more old quotes and others repeated still wet from the last page, I'd have a more intellectual and open conversation with a Russian parrot.

You are not worried about the vast majority of oppressed people within a Syria being supported for decades as a Russian puppet President, any more than you are concerned about democracy within the UK.

Funny old world, you justify the Russian military interests supplying their friends, by citing western interests as a threat - now here have we continually heard that before, comrade.

''d have a more intellectual and open conversation with a Russian parrot.'

And you would still be out-argued.

It's getting boring now, so I'll leave you to look up Politics 101 courses at further educational establishments.

"I'm not surprised by this. Who would prefer the Jihadis apart from the rich oil money men?"

What came first, the 45-years of father and son Assad dire Human Rights leading to a peaceful protest they were fired upon by their president - or the rich oil men trying to break Russia's oil/gas stranglehold of Europe?

Human Rights in Syria
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Syria

"Who's a pretty girl then" ... Arrrrwk

'What came first, the 45-years of father and son Assad dire Human Rights?"

Was it this?

"Assad close to being knighted under Blair

TONY BLAIR??S government considered asking the Queen to bestow an honorary knighthood on President Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian dictator, official papers reveal."

www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1072174.ece

Considering my politics, that is low hanging fruit for this old bird to jump on, but I shan't go there.

P.S. Re your "so I'll leave you to look up Politics 101 courses at further educational establishments."

It probably looked better in your Russian-to-English translator, BEFORE you pressed the button.

Re ISIS

The UK government making up a WMD case versus Iraq will forever make us a tad sceptical about similar government claims against those our governments perceive as an enemy of the state.

But as we KNOW Hamas can supply and build quite sophisticated missiles under the ground of the Gaza Strip ?? and ISIS/ISIL/IS (whatever) has militarily and technically proved to be very resourceful ?? combined with the ISIS proven methods/savagery, it is not too much of a stretch to believe the following claim

US official: 'IS making and using chemical weapons in Iraq and Syria'
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34211838

??There is a growing belief within the US government that the Islamic State militant group is making and using crude chemical weapons in Iraq and Syria, a US official has told the BBC.??

??The US has identified at least four occasions on both sides of the Iraq-Syria border where IS has used mustard agents, the official said.??

^??The official said the chemical was being used in powder form.
A BBC team on the Turkey-Syria border has seenevidence backing these claims.??^

??The US believes the group has a cell dedicated to building these weapons.??

"They're using mustard," the individual said of IS. "We know they are."

Contd??.

Re President Assad

We also know that the reason why even more Syrians have been killed and displaced, is that President Assad of Syria is similarly resourceful and cruel e.g in the use of barrel bombs.

But what are the chances/options of ridding the 75% Sunni population he is targeting, of President Assad?

Well we know that Iran and Russia (see the link below) have supported the Assad??s for decades, and we now know (thanks to claig) that the traditional Russia versus the west and Shia Iran versus the Sunni Gulf States, has been enhanced in Syria by the wish for the Gulf States to supply Europe partially via a pipeline over Syria ?? that understated, are neither in Russian or Iranian interests

Syria civil war: The Russians are coming to President Assad's aid...or are they?
www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-civil-war-the-russians-are-coming-topresident-assads-aid--orare-they-10495563.html

So within the geopolitical world and what is at stake, again it is no stretch, to assume that Russia at least, could only ever consider allowing President Assad to stand down, if Putin could replace one overly aggressive puppet who will never change, to a more dovish inclusive presidential puppet ?? swapping a ??Sweep?? for a ??Sooty?? if you will.

I hear you shout but ??it??s (still) a puppet?? but that is how the Middle East has been since its first barrel of oil, and this could be the ONLY way to wipe the slate clean and INCLUDE all Syrian citizen??s in its future, install for the first time in several decades their Human Rights, keep Russia happy, unite the factions within the Free Syrian ??rebels?? ?? and combined both help to rid Syria of ISIS now, and stop its return.

Why should Russia agree to this, rather than pump more money and resources into Assads shrinking influence?

Russia continues to financially and economically reel from the effects of a global slowdown, the price of oil and Western sanctions over the Ukraine ?? as the Rouble has fallen over 60% to the US$ in a year, GDP was down over 4% in the last quarter and Russian Consumption due to all this falling off a cliff ?? but with the Central Bank powerless to help the economy by lowering interest rates, for fear of further dumping of the Rouble.

Fears of financial crisis rise as Russia??s economy shrinks
www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a4b9944c-3f77-11e5-b98b-87c7270955cf.html

There can be no peaceful solution in Syria while Assad remains in power firmly representing just 18% of the Alawite (Shia) population who happens to be the only people he hasn??t attempted to kill over the past for years - and while it would make huge sense and a huge statement to those Sunni Syrian citizens fleeing Syria for the new Russian installed President to be a Sunni Muslim ?? Iran, Russia??s regional axis of evil partner, would never allow it.

'Assad remains in power firmly representing just 18% of the Alawite (Shia) population who happens to be the only people he hasn??t attempted to kill over the past for years'

Has Assad tried to kill the Christians, Druse, Jews and Sunnis generals and troops serving in the Syrian Army and the Sunnis living in Damascus, the capital of Syria, and elsewhere?

As ever, you haven't got a clue what you are talking about, but that has never stopped you up to now.

"Likud Deputy Minister Ayoub Kara, the acting minister of the Regional Cooperation Ministry, spoke with a Syrian Jewish leader who informed him that there has been a sharp drop in the numbers of Jews in two main cities in Syria.
...
Likud Deputy Minister Ayoub Kara, the acting minister of the Regional Cooperation Ministry, spoke with a Syrian Jewish leader who informed him that there has been a sharp drop in the numbers of Jews in two main cities in Syria."

www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Only-about-50-Jews-left-in-Syrias-main-cities-408435

Why aren't we helping Assad defeat Isis and restoring a secular Syria where all faiths are protected - Christians, Druse, Jews, Shia and Sunni - by the Syrian government? Is it the oil money men and their oil pipeline?

Most of the Jews in Syria are elderly and so it is difficult for them to flee, he said.

Some Jews have fled Damascus and others have been killed, continued Kara, adding that it was his aim to concentrate on saving the Jews, Druse, Christians and Kurds in Syria.

??Islamic State are the new Nazis,?? asserted Kara."

www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Only-about-50-Jews-left-in-Syrias-main-cities-408435

Claig ... OK, so as you know better than me, where do all Christians, Druse and Jews (that form how much of the population?) LIVE, in their own towns, seperate from anyone else - or are Assad's helicopter dropped barrel bombs, ordinance dropped from airplanes and field artillery shells not allowed to kill anyone other than a Sunni rebel or Jihadist?

www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/quarter-million-people-dead-syria-war-150807093941704.html

And how many Sunni Generals does President Assad have?

P.S. Half of Syrians no longer live in their own homes, so if the original 17% of the Syrian population NEITHER Sunni or Alawite HAVE survived, maybe it was because they wasn't at home when the bombs went off.

The Syrian Defence Minister is a Sunni.

Robert Fisk article in the Independent

'There is no sectarianism in the army': Syria??s war ?? the general??s view
...
"As for General Swaidan's soldiers, they arrive to salute their commander and are invited to talk to me: a group of conscripts who give their full names and their civilian jobs - one was a tailor, another a carpenter - and cheerfully say they are Sunni Muslims. Assad, of course, is an Alawite, but the general is careful of percentages, saying that 60 to 65 per cent of the 4th Brigade are Sunnis. "There is no sectarianism in this army, not in our brigade, and if you tour the checkpoints around the city, you will find most of the soldiers are Sunnis."

The rebel forces in Syria, of course, are almost all Sunni Muslims, and that was the general's point: Syrian Sunnis also fight for the army. And when I did stop at the general's checkpoints and rather cruelly demanded to know their religion, almost all of them were indeed Sunni, some conscripts, many regular soldiers."

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/there-is-no-sectarianism-in-the-army-syrias-war--the-generals-view-9206169.html

'where do all Christians, Druse and Jews (that form how much of the population?) LIVE'

I am not going to provide all your education on world affairs. There is google and a Politics 101 course at a further education college, if they deem you capable of benefitting from the course and being able to contribute to the class.

'The rebel forces in Syria, of course, are almost all Sunni Muslims'

And the majority of those are probably foreign Takfiri Wahhabis, Chechens and other foreign Jihadis paid for and funded by outside forces.

"The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said a Saudi militant who came to Syria to fight with the country's al Qaeda affiliate, the Nusra Front, blew himself up late on Monday at an army checkpoint in the village of Rahjan in central Hama province."

www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/28/us-syria-crisis-qaeda-idUSBREA0R0EB20140128

Claig ??. Still supporting murderous Assad and Russians interests, without cares for the 75% of Sunnis getting attacked ?? citing foreign Jihadists as the problem, no doubt sent by the Ukrainian government, eh? How pathetically Soviet.

Before the conflict, there would had to have been Sunnis in the Syrian army based on the population??s religious mix ?? as in Iraq, which is why a standing/reserve army of 300,000 Iraqis could not defeat 10,000 ISIS fighters ?? but as in Iraq, they would have defected as the fight went on or couldn??t be trusted, which is why Iran has had to pay 130,000 Afghans to fight in Syria for Assad.

July 2012; Syrian??s Defection Signals Eroding Support for Assad
www.nytimes.com/2012/07/07/world/middleeast/opponents-of-syrias-president-gather-in-paris.html?_r=0

But the uprising fueled almost entirely by the Sunni community ?? some 75 percent of the population ?? has gradually formed a deepening sectarian rift, chipping away at that crucial support among Sunnis. As the government crackdown intensified, leaving by some estimates as many as 17,000 dead, according to the United Nations, at least one deputy minister and 15 generals, all of them Sunnis, have defected to Turkey, 5 in the past few weeks alone.

And that was 3-years ago, and now Assad troops of all creeds are defecting, which is why he continues to abandon his lands to opposing forces.

'Still supporting murderous Assad and Russians interests'

No I am with General Lord Dannatt, former head of the Britsh Army

'Britain must talk to dictator Assad to defeat Isil, says former head of the Army

General Lord Dannatt, former head of British Army, says West must co-operate with Syrian dictator to defeat Isil '

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11050367/Britain-must-talk-to-dictator-Assad-to-defeat-Isil-says-former-head-of-the-Army.html

and I am with former SAS man, Chris Ryan

"Britain needs to destroy ISIS NOW by joining forces with PUTIN and ASSAD, says Chris Ryan

BRITAIN needs to form a controversial alliance with Vladimir Putin and Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad in order destroy the growing threat of Islamic State (ISIS), it has been claimed today.

A terror expert warns the feared group can only be crushed with a unusual concerted effort between Syria, Russia and the West.

Following Russia setting up an air base in Syria to help the Middle East country in its fight against ISIS, former SAS man-turned novelist Chris Ryan said now is the opportunity to crack the biggest threat to world peace.

He said: "For us to get ISIS would need to have a link up with Syria and the targeting of its strongholds. All the areas along the Anbar Province - between Iraq and Syria - that's where we need to hit.

"The best idea would be to hit them both sides with Europe and the United States one side and Russia on the other.

"The longer we wait, the stronger ISIS will get."

www.express.co.uk/news/world/604357/Britain-destroy-ISIS-join-forces-PUTIN-and-ASSAD-says-Chris-Ryan

And I'm with Corbyn (who will probably change things) and with UKIP's Steven Woolfe. It is just basic common sense.

So again, a simple question, please do try to answer in one paragraph without the aid of others; as in the real Syria Assad has not just been attacking Jihadist in every Sunni home he has bombed/shelled - HOW will at least 75% of the population ever trust an Assad regime again, which is key to them staying/going back?

And also answer in one paragraph WHO outside Syria has the RIGHT to tell Syrians they have to live under Assad oppression as they haver done for 45-years?

Human Rights in Syria
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Syria

'HOW will at least 75% of the population ever trust an Assad regime again, which is key to them staying/going back?'

You will find out if Corbyn manages to get a deal done. They will go back and trust Assad, and the UN will have to pay to rebuild Syria and provide jobs and rebuild homes for people after the failed 5 year war against Assad by assorted mercenary foreign Jihadis, Al Qaeda, Isis and Takfiris funded and backed by outside forces and oil interests.

'WHO outside Syria has the RIGHT to tell Syrians they have to live under Assad oppression as they haver done for 45-years?'

No one is telling them they have to live there, but they will want to. The EU cannot allow potentially millions of Syrians to relocate to Europe because that will be the end of the EU, when European people vote against the European political class and vote for populist parties instead. So a solution will have to be found and it will be to end the war and rebuild Syria. European taxpayers will have to pay, and may therefore still vote against the European political class for allowing the war to continue for 5 years, for the Jihadi war against Assad for the interests of foreign oil moguls.

"Assad close to being knighted under Blair

TONY BLAIR'S government considered asking the Queen to bestow an honorary knighthood on President Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian dictator, official papers reveal."

www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1072174.ece

What changed in such a short time? Was it something to do with oil and the fact that Assad did not go along with the Qatari/Saudi pipeline?

What changed after 45-years of oppression and 4-years where 250,000 Syrians are dead and half the population are no longer in their homes, 4 million not even in the country - not much else really, I don't know what the fuss is about.

Still in your world Super-Corbyn will do what Bat-Blair couldn't despite being a complete dick-tator suck-off, and the UN will both pay and support a Dictator that only Russia and Iran wants in place. Got it.