can women be paedophiles?

[mummynetter]

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oh dear, I had a post lined up to go basically asking for help with my slightly skewed viewpoint but MN went funny for a while.

Of course it is abuse, but I wonder if it is more mind-messing than physical abuse, and I wonder if I lean towards that viewpoint because of the male mechanics of sex?

Oh hellfire, I sound like Judge Pickles

how do you know your 15 year old wouldn't be tempted by a demi moore or cindy crawford lookalike, just becuase they are in their late 30's or 40's.

Have you looked at the woman ????? She is no Cindy Crawford !

absolutely agree with NDP & Lockets......so if a woman dates a man and has consesual sex with him on occasion...he cannot therefore rape or assault her? i don;t think so!

yes teenage boys are fizzing with sexual energy...but to manipulate and entice and coerce them into a sexual realtionship by virtue of age or whatever it might be is still absolutely wrong.....she may well have'groomed'them, emotionally blackmailed them, goodness knows what.....

Because the thought of being 38/39/40 etc is horrifying to most teenaged boys. It'd be like seeing their parents naked.....

she may not look like cindy crawford, but your point was, your son wouldn't go with an older woman and cindy crawford is about that age.

MY son wouldn't because he is repulsed by the idea that people so oooooooooooooooold actually have sex....

I am not going to continue this conversation. I have made my point and my reasons abundantly clear.

In case you missed it, my answer to the OP was "Yes"

how many teenage boys have crushes on their teachers. yes, i mean teachrs in their 30's or 40's. like that record by that boy band (can't remember their name) the song "that's what i go to school for". its about teenage boys fancying their 30 plus teacher. so even if your son doesn't, i am sure some do.

a crush is different to actually fucking them, IMO.

I am really bowing out now. Enjoy the debate

"Notes on a Scandal" anyone?

mummynetter...your question was 'can women be paedophiles?' answer is yes.

if you wnat to debate whether teenage lads should /would shag an older woman / teacher..that was the wrong way to phrase it.

IMO a teacher, in a position of authority has no buisness getting sexually involved with a minor.

a pop song or a fantasy is totally differnet to a real life suituation of a young person being encouraged into a sexuyal relatiionship by someone much older ..imo

I'm sorry but if this was the other way around young girl, old man would you say it was abuse yes you wouyld so why the bloody hell shouldn't it be for a young boy.

can women be paedophiles, yes. dont you remember the baby rape case

my thoughts exactly FB!

How sick is that woman for sleeping with boys of that age. As someone else mentioned, there would be uproar if it was an older man with girls of same age.

She must be a sick person.

Yes lulamama, I remember that awful baby case with that repulsive couple.

Hmmm.

Firstly, I don't think this is the same as someone abusing a child. But I do still think it's wrong, she is taking advantage.

Secondly, I do think women can sexually abuse people. I dated someone, a long time ago, who'd been sexually abused by his mum.

quite recently there was a story on the news about a teacher who had had a relationship with a 13 year old pupil. Think it was in the US. Anyway she was 30 something, married with three children, and ad had this sexual relationship with him. She went to jail, for about 5 years I think. He's now 21, and they have since got married.

Yes, women can be paedophiles.

When I last looked, there were 50 women in prison for sexual offencesagainst children - the VAST majority are those where they aid/abet/procure for abusive males.

Contrast this with, at any time, there are approx. 3,500 men in prison for sexual offences, albeit against children and adult women.

IT's just that it is more "intriguing" for the media when the perpetrator is a woman.....if a man of her age had sex with two girls theses boys ages, it MIGHT get a mention in the local paper.

Pann, yeah, that ratio is about what I would suspect. I do wonder if there aren't a few more female paedophiles not getting prosecuted for all the usual reasons (I know my ex, who'd been molested by his mom, was never ever going to press charges. For example.)

Do people in the industry distinguish between paedophiles (of either gender) who get involved with post-pubescent people, and those who actually interfere with children? Or are they all lumped into the same group?

I think it is very rare for women to be almost exclusively sexually oriented towards young children. I suspect they are far more likely to assist a man's abuse of a child to please him rather than for their own pleasure.
I don't think I would call this woman a paedophile. I think what she did was wrong, abusive and cruel though.

ephebophiliacs: adults attracted to postpubescent adolescents.

yes, my friend (male) was abused by his adopted mother - in the bath til he was about 14 years old.

Abuser discrimination - depends for what purposes you mean.....in terms of 'treatment' (in groups) then 'no' - I facilitated on two groups, one excluding rapists, the other inclusive. That was the criterion most applied, rather than post-pube or not.

The abusers of girls JUST having secondary sexual characteristics provides their own challenges as there is often a welter of 'excuses' to be made re the victim, that is harder to apply to much younger girls (as hard as some of them try!)