The situation with migrants and illegal immigration

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What is the answer?

I would hate to be in the position of making the decision because I hate to think of how desperate the individuals concerned must be.

But I can also quite see that there simply isn't the physical room to allow all of them into the UK, or the resources.

What is the answer? Is there no answer?

I think it's too complex to play the blame game.
What's important is the here and now. People want to come to UK, probably because they already have relatives here. They believe they will be dealt with fairly. They think there are opportunities.

We should let them in. We should allow them to settle. It's the only moral thing to do.

No one leaves their home, their family their land and livelihood for nothing.
No one gets on a boat with their baby and young children unless they are utterly desperate.

Some of them are forced onto these boats at gunpoint.

There is plenty of room in Britain. We should be giving people the opportunity to work, we should be using their skills.

In fact there is nothing else we can do - nothing is going to change in Syria for a long time. These refugees will not just disappear. So we need to get organised and give these people asylum.

Otherwise there will be a larger and larger shanty town at Calais. At the moment the government seems to be hoping it will go away. It won't.

squidzin why assume it was the daily mail? No it wasn't

ohmyeye why the face?

Yy waffly, I live on the Continent and am always a bit to read so many UK attitudes about everybody apparently heading there. Clearly people in Calais are, but there are many, many more asylum seekers or 'failed' asylum seekers (sorry don't know the proper term in English) and people who have been granted asylum who have never given a moment's thought to the UK. My friend is from Somalia, she just wanted to get the hell out of there to somewhere she had a better chance of survival and being able to bring up a family. Now she does everything she can to improve her skills in out language so she can get a job when the children are at school. Just a normal person who wanted to be able to live in peace. Not particularly interested in the UK more than anywhere else where she could get on with living a normal life.

Sorry for wall of text

Interesting that just 6 per cent of Syrian refugees fleeing war have headed to Europe.
Not what the daily mail would have you believe.

Yes waffly that's what I already said.... They want to contact people who have gone on ahead.

Ubik I agree that the blame game is nonsense right now. When kids are drowning like that, I don't care who pushed them in.

I don't have the answers mind you. I don't know what we're going to do. But I think that pointing fingers is a waste of precious time right now.

In fact Turkey and Lebanon have taken almost 2 million refugees each.

YY Ubik

And thanks ohmy. I'm beginning to wonder if some people think 'refugee crisis' means 'Poor Britain's crisis of a few k people wanting to come here from Calais ' rather than meaning 'millions of people displace by violence'.

squidzin it's not even 1% I don't think. 1% of those who have gotten as far as Europe maybe. definitely not nearly as much as 1% of the millions who have been displaced.

The report I just read ( sub report on sky news app) called destination Europe, reported that Macedonia and Hungary are now closing borders

Everyone is happy to take in these people initially but the worries are over the sheer volume of those yet to come

The fact is the richest countries take on the smallest refugee burden.

We can't afford it, people whine. Well Turkey can't afford it either.

Hungary has taken more than 100,000. It is a poor country.

What would you do? Keep borders closed? A sort of "LA LA We're not listening..." Policy? Happy for people to raise children in squalor in Calais? Risk their lives daily through the tunnel? Blockade lorries going through?

What do you think we should do?

Greece has taken 100x more than us.

Greece! Who were made bankrupt through capitalist EU involvement.

At the very least basic shelter and access to food banks is their fundamental legal right.

Ultimately, peace in the middle east will revolve this.

With regards to Calais I think the drench could be doing a hell of a lot more really

French!!

It's our border!

We should let these people live safely with their fundamental right to not be bombed, set on fire, shot and orphaned.

Does it matter whose border it is? The people who require help now can't wait whilst French/UK continue to squabble

It's our responsibility

So the French should just walk past and turn a blind eye?

Well o know as a fellow human I couldn't. But hey, it's not their responsibility so leave em eh?

I don't think the French are doing that...but TBH, isn't that what the UK government is doing? These refugees want to come to the UK. But as long as they are across the water we are happy fir them to live in shanty town and risk their lives through the tunnel.

It's only a matter of time before there are boats going across the channel.